Zelda LTTP on wii get it while it's hot.

Tallgeese · Post by **Tallgeese** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:27 pm

So...

The VC is basically one giant series of game-specific hacks?

PHoNyMiKe · Post by **PHoNyMiKe** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:47 pm

yeah, it's the rom and emu built in. the geny games are geny emus downloaded (snes games are like 16-30 megabytes it really varies.) I'm sure they use a certain emulator, then test out roms with it, then tweak the emu until the game runs perfect, then sell it for $8 to $10. plus it's all encrypted to your wii, so you can't transfer the games to another wii, like bringing your games over to a friend's house back in the day.

I bought $30 worth of points (3,000) with a credit card from the wii (that shit better be secure.) but buying a card as say a gift will cost you sales tax in a store, but is pry easier to enter into the wii menu.

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:41 am

stores shouldn't double tax on gift cards

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:44 pm

Those of you who are emulator authors should feel proud. Even Nintendo can't emulate their own hardware apparently. A specific emulator per game also explains why the release list is so terrible and small. It also foreshadows the list growing at a very small rate because they would actually have to prepare an emulator for each game. That does not sound like a sound business plan to me.

We have yet to see obviously, but I doubt even at the end of the consoles lifespan(say 5 years) they can even get 200 games on the list doing it the way they are doing it.

That shuts out the majority of lesser known games, and a whole bunch more most likely. That also kills the idea of home brew content ever becoming a reality.

Bent · Post by **Bent** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:01 pm

You have to pay tax when using a credit card too, my total purchase price yesterday was $31.80 or something like that.

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:49 pm

NC:
Programming a good all-round emulator would probably take too long, for not enough benefits.
They should be able to do it, but they're trapped by commercial constriction.

PHoNyMiKe · Post by **PHoNyMiKe** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:13 pm

then they ripped you off or something. looking at my bank statement:

01/16/2007 CHK CRD NINTENDO WII PO $30.00

when done from the wii itself, it said my purchase was $30 even.

p.s. I hope they don't send the wiipo man to take muh points!

Firon · Post by **Firon** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:07 pm

Probably depends on where you live.

Bent · Post by **Bent** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:13 pm

Maybe they do tax like a lot of other online sales, depending on what state you are in, although I don't know why michigan would charge tax since Nintendo is in washington. It hasn't shown up on my account yet, but the Wii told me $31.80 or something like that.

Neo Kaiser · Post by **Neo Kaiser** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:45 pm

The only way I would pay for a VC game on the Will is if Nintendo release the first Legend of Zelda with Zelda BS graphics.

FitzRoy · Post by **FitzRoy** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:38 pm

If they still have the source code, they might as well finish Star Fox 2 and release it on the wii. It would probably get a lot of sales as a new game.

I agree with Nightcrawler that emulator authors should be proud, but I don't know if it's bad business. It appears on the surface to be incompetence, but is it possible that this was done to make it impossible for someone to hack the wii and play old games without paying?

jtrevor99 · Post by **jtrevor99** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:10 pm

Re: Release of StarFox 2

That would be pretty nice, wouldn't it? I won't hold my breath though--I'm betting Nintendo's planning on spending as close to 0% additional development time on their old games as they can.

But now you've got me dreaming...thinking about playing an English version of Seiken Densetsu 3, Mother 0, Radical Dreamers, or any of a number of other games is making me drool.

Firon · Post by **Firon** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:27 pm

Eh, Star Fox 2 is practically finished already with that IPS patch I saw floating about. They could probably release it like that.

PHoNyMiKe · Post by **PHoNyMiKe** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:42 pm

if given the choice to run my roms on the wii as opposed to paying for them I would definately run my own. this way I can play stuff like SD3 and a lot of games they'll never release like cu-on-pa without whipping out a backup unit, snes, adaptors and cables for s-video signal.

I'm still contemplating an xbox, you can network those things and have a whole entertainment center, unlike how people are trying to get crummy hacks running entertainment through opera. I'm getting a 360 some time, hopefully they have or will have all the emus for it like cps2 and shit

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:57 pm

creaothceann wrote:NC:
Programming a good all-round emulator would probably take too long, for not enough benefits.
They should be able to do it, but they're trapped by commercial constriction.

Would it take too long? The Wii concept is several years old now. Not to mention, Nintendo has entered ino the emulation relm a few times in the past with some of their releases. That should have been sufficient time for a staff of people who can work on something like that full time for awhile.

I can only speculate how much time per game they spend, but added up over the course of the Wii's lifespan, I'd imagine combined time could exceed the emulator development time. But perhaps that's jumping to conclusions and assuming too much about Nintendo, their resources, and their programmers abilities.

Maybe it's unrealistic to expect full emulators for all the consoles supported in Virtual Console, but I don't think it's much at all to expect at least an emulator for a few Nintendo ones such as the NES, or SNES.

Supporting all NES U.S. games at launch or something like that would have been HUGE. The virtual console could have really been something. I just feel like it's such wasted potential.