Why do games crash/freeze on my computer?

IloveSteph · Post by **IloveSteph** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:37 pm

Games ive tried, Battlefield 1942 and road to rome, crashed like...5 out of 6 times, Oblivion has crashed everytime...which is like 8 times, Thief crashed 1 time...but I was so mad I didnt continue, and so on....

Ok...I play oblivion for roughly half an hour, then it crashes to the desktop without shutting off, so I hit the game thing in the taskbar, it pops back up, regardless of what I do next, it freezes. I cant save, I cant do anything, it just freezes. I open task manager and it doesnt say its stopped running. (Other games just freeze without going to the desktop)

Before anyone asks, I have updated my drivers for my card...in fact the drivers that came with my card were the newest ones. I have defragged, scan disked, restarted, everything...and it still freezes. I have nothing running except a fire wall, so its not taking all the resources. (And the firewall is not blocking it, or any other game)

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200
M2n-e Asus motherboard
2 gigs corsair dual channel
Corsair 520 watt psu
Nvidia 7900 256mb pci-e

Everything that I can see, is running cool. The processor is running 27-34c when it runs oblivion on the highest mode.

I ran the DXdiag and everything passed. I checked all the drivers in manage folder and everythings fine...
Additional Details

---In oblivion...this is how fast it freezes. I loaded right outside of the first visible dungeon when you start. It has froze 3 times since I entered...each time I get a little farther, then save...and it freezes so I have to load way back cause I dont have time to save every 2 seconds.---

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:50 pm

You should really check to see if there are other background apps running and disable them, including the firewall if need be.

Also, it is an idea to use different video card drivers, since NVidia usually has a ton of leaked versions out there.

IloveSteph · Post by **IloveSteph** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:07 am

You mean theres other drivers for the card thats not nvidia? Where do I find these drivers? Also, I have almost everything shut off, with or without the firewall it freezes

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:12 am

Did you try patching your games?

IloveSteph · Post by **IloveSteph** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:21 am

I patched all but oblivion. Im going to download a patch soon...but patching the other games didnt help any...so I dont know.

And does anyone know where to get a newer driver for my 7900 gs geforce? I found a beta driver released in november...but I dont know how trustworthy it is considering its beta...

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:42 am

the beta drivers work fine and dandy for me imho. (geforce 6600gt pcie)

Oskar_Hanberg · Post by **Oskar_Hanberg** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:50 am

"AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200
M2n-e Asus motherboard
2 gigs corsair dual channel"

holy crap dude!

thats EXACTLY what I have.... fuck thats.. wierd.

alexz721 · Post by **alexz721** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:54 am

What operating system?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:00 am

IloveSteph wrote:You mean theres other drivers for the card thats not nvidia? Where do I find these drivers? Also, I have almost everything shut off, with or without the firewall it freezes

That is completely not what I meant.

Try a different driver revision (beta or official) and see if that helps.

http://www.guru3d.com for tons of NVidia drivers you can download (of course, don't consider older versions of drivers that were not meant to support your hardware).

IloveSteph · Post by **IloveSteph** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:22 am

I have Xp

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:42 am

install the CPU drivers from amd.com

PHoNyMiKe · Post by **PHoNyMiKe** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:55 am

when the games first start, do they say "checksum = ok"?

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:57 am

Deathlike2 wrote:
IloveSteph wrote:You mean theres other drivers for the card thats not nvidia? Where do I find these drivers? Also, I have almost everything shut off, with or without the firewall it freezes
That is completely not what I meant.

Try a different driver revision (beta or official) and see if that helps.

http://www.guru3d.com for tons of NVidia drivers you can download (of course, don't consider older versions of drivers that were not meant to support your hardware).

nVidia also hosts the older driver revisions on their FTP site.
ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/

Found that trying to dig out drivers for an older card. The current drivers at the time wouldn't take anything older than a GeForce3, I think.

Kinda sad that the later detonators don't support the TNT family(at least they renamed them nForce after a while, but they still point you to the nForces if you tell them you have a TNT2. They no longer list TNT1 drivers anywhere on their site).

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:59 am

Gil_Hamilton wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote:
IloveSteph wrote:You mean theres other drivers for the card thats not nvidia? Where do I find these drivers? Also, I have almost everything shut off, with or without the firewall it freezes
That is completely not what I meant.

Try a different driver revision (beta or official) and see if that helps.

http://www.guru3d.com for tons of NVidia drivers you can download (of course, don't consider older versions of drivers that were not meant to support your hardware).
nVidia also hosts the older driver revisions on their FTP site.
ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/

Found that trying to dig out drivers for an older card. The current drivers at the time wouldn't take anything older than a GeForce3, I think.

Kinda sad that the later detonators don't support the TNT family(at least they renamed them nForce after a while, but they still point you to the nForces if you tell them you have a TNT2. They no longer list TNT1 drivers anywhere on their site).

Let me know when hardware that can't run today's games is worth updating.

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:44 am

INSTALL THIS

IloveSteph · Post by **IloveSteph** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:44 pm

phOnYmIkE wrote:when the games first start, do they say "checksum = ok"?

No, they load perfectly...but when I start the game...a couple times it froze while loading....but most of the time it freezes a couple minutes to an hour into the game.

AMD drivers? I didnt know about them. I will download them in just a second. I didnt realize that i needed one, I thought the drivers for the motherboard would have them.

IloveSteph · Post by **IloveSteph** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:45 pm

wait...I dont have Vista though...I have Xp. I was just saying the newest drivers are Vista only.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:09 pm

XP allows for "processor drivers". This is mostly for optimization purposes (and potentially for bug fixing, though unlikely). I don't see how dense you can be when it comes to comprehending what you have been told. Just install the processor drivers funkyass linked to, since there are required for stability/performance (particularly what you are experiencing).

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:33 pm

Deathlike, you really ain't helping matters.

If you are running a Athlon 64 CPU, you should install the drivers for xp from AMD, as XP lack proper support for the power saving states that Kool n Quiet actually uses.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:37 pm

funkyass wrote:Deathlike, you really ain't helping matters.

If you are running a Athlon 64 CPU, you should install the drivers for xp from AMD, as XP lack proper support for the power saving states that Kool n Quiet actually uses.

I'm already running that on 2k.