Virginia Tech shootings

[Joe Camacho]

On another note, has anyone else seen how the shooter sent footage to NBC after shooting two people, and then went and killed the rest and NBC didn't notify anyone upon receiving said footage.

I believe he mailed it after the first incident, and it arrived two days later. NBC didn't receive it after the first shooting, it was just mailed then.

Yes, he got the address wrong, so it couldn't arrive on express mail as he sent it.

[Panzer88]

I see, well I was misinformed, it still wouldn't suprise me in this day and age though.

[Gil_Hamilton]

On another note, has anyone else seen how the shooter sent footage to NBC after shooting two people, and then went and killed the rest and NBC didn't notify anyone upon receiving said footage.

I believe he mailed it after the first incident, and it arrived two days later. NBC didn't receive it after the first shooting, it was just mailed then.

Which is exactly how fucked up all of this is.


Honestly, how could he shoot a bunch of people, leave, put together a press kit, head to the post office, mail the package to NBC, then come back and still be able to shoot a bunch more people?
Security by the time the second shooting occured should've been tighter than a homophobic pretty boy's sphincter in the prison shower after he dropped the soap.

[PHoNyMiKe]

here's a radical new idea (well not new, my junior high had it over ten years ago.) METAL DETECTORS IN THE SCHOOL. everybody wants to profile this asshat, and fulfill their agenda of gun control. neither of which is gonna make anyone safer. metal detectors in the school would have caught his guns, and thus prevented this whole matter.

1. gun control: no, if you want a gun, you'll get an illegal gun.
2. profiling: no, there'll be tons of false positives.
3. metal detectors: yes, it's that easy to prevent shit like this!

[Joe Camacho]

here's a radical new idea (well not new, my junior high had it over ten years ago.) METAL DETECTORS IN THE SCHOOL. everybody wants to profile this asshat, and fulfill their agenda of gun control. neither of which is gonna make anyone safer. metal detectors in the school would have caught his guns, and thus prevented this whole matter.

1. gun control: no, if you want a gun, you'll get an illegal gun.
2. profiling: no, there'll be tons of false positives.
3. metal detectors: yes, it's that easy to prevent shit like this!

What about those plastic guns?

[PFUNK]

Don't a lot of electronics like laptops and shit have metal in them? And Virginia Tech is an engineering campus with all kinds of metal equipment probably. So that idea might not work out too well I don't know.

[Panzer88]

Plastic detector!

well it would certainly filter out a lot of guns, especially heavy or high caliber ones.

I'd think kids would try to find a way to sabotage the detector before they tried to find a plastic gun. Still, there would be all sorts of complaints and issues with kids coming in, but at least it would work.

Some people just fight the system because they're dumb asses.

but you've got a point Retro, that would solve a lot. Only problem is it becomes harder to force all colleges in the states to do something, as they aren't federal property like public schools.

[Gil_Hamilton]

here's a radical new idea (well not new, my junior high had it over ten years ago.) METAL DETECTORS IN THE SCHOOL. everybody wants to profile this asshat, and fulfill their agenda of gun control. neither of which is gonna make anyone safer. metal detectors in the school would have caught his guns, and thus prevented this whole matter.

1. gun control: no, if you want a gun, you'll get an illegal gun.
2. profiling: no, there'll be tons of false positives.
3. metal detectors: yes, it's that easy to prevent shit like this!

But invasion of privacy, unwarranted search and seizure!
People take some rights far more seriously than others.

here's a radical new idea (well not new, my junior high had it over ten years ago.) METAL DETECTORS IN THE SCHOOL. everybody wants to profile this asshat, and fulfill their agenda of gun control. neither of which is gonna make anyone safer. metal detectors in the school would have caught his guns, and thus prevented this whole matter.

1. gun control: no, if you want a gun, you'll get an illegal gun.
2. profiling: no, there'll be tons of false positives.
3. metal detectors: yes, it's that easy to prevent shit like this!

What about those plastic guns?

As usual, it was the media making a big deal out of nothing. There was a high metal content in the Glock mechanism. Only the outer shell was plastic. It'd never make it through a metal detector.

The "concern" was that x-ray machine operators wouldn't recognize the mechanism and were only capable of identifying guns by the case(personally, I think the mechanism is gun-shaped enough to be recognizable, as did most rational people).
Nowadays, the plastic is seeded with metallic particles, so it looks like every other handgun does in an X-ray.

[PHoNyMiKe]

metal detectors detect the density of guns. a laptop might set off say a 4 (on a scale of 1-10) while a glock would set off a 10. there might be some guns that could rate lower, but guns are very dense.

and if someone is gonna get a plastic gun, then they'd definately be able to get an illegal regular gun if we tightened gun control.

they do it at airports, take your laptop out the bag, put your keys in a little bin, and walk through.

[Gil_Hamilton]

and if someone is gonna get a plastic gun, then they'd definately be able to get an illegal regular gun if we tightened gun control.

Worst-case scenario, they could build one out of PVC pipe.
Seriously.

[Noxious Ninja]

Blowguns can be plastic, silent, and very deadly.

[corronchilejano]

For your information, over here there are plastic Knife-guns that fire three rounds and even glass guns the size of your thumb that fire two rounds.

If they made them here in the streets, they could perfectly do them over there... well... getting a gun here is a pain in the a** due to the gun control, so maybe that's why people tend to create shit like that.

[kevman]

I had to walk through a metal detector every single stinking day when I was in 9th grade. I grew up in a bad area. They poked through your backpack just like an airport. Annoying.

But in a college campus environment, that's pretty much impossible, what with people driving in cars and all.

[Panzer88]

yeah I was talking with a friend, and it was brought up that metal detectors are EXPENSIVE, not only that but on a large college campus there are so many buildings and dorms you would need numerous detectors, and it wouldn't be feasible.

The thing is, if someone is that off center, and wants to kill people, there are SO many ways. I have an expansive knowledge of chemistry and it's just scary. Society should focus on the people, not the weapons, the mental issues are the problem, not the guns.

[adventure_of_link]

uh yeeeeeeeeeeeah, like we need more kids amped up on ritalin and ADD diagnosis after ADD diagnosis..

[Panzer88]

not exactly what I meant...

ADD is used as an excuse for not being able to function when you could 9 out of 10 times.

no, I mean like kids who want to kill people, and tell other people this - something needs to be done for with/for the.

[adventure_of_link]

it was sarcasm, because (for the most part) people (especially kids) almost ALWAYS get diagnosed with ADD orsmth in this overly politically correct world without enough discipline, when I bet most of the cases aren't even legit.

I apologize.