considering getting a Wii

[Blasingame]

The reason why i'm considering getting one, mostly because the new zelda game and I really want to play some gamecube games now that they are cheap.

The deal is my roomate's friend works in the nintendo packaging plant in Washington state and can get me a system for about 200$ tax included. what has me sold on it is the amazing backward compatability. I hear the old PAR emulator trick works well. Also that the Wii's wireless functionality i hear is amazing. Any other Pros. Cons please post here too. The way I see it is either spend over 200$ to build new PC or pay 200$ and get a Wii.

[funkyass]

the wii is fun.

however, it does support WPA, so if you are using a DS and its wifi, you might need to juggle some stuff.

[PHoNyMiKe]

I hear the old PAR emulator trick works well.

or the plethora of modchips available for it.

the only downfall of the wii is you need other people around to interact with and play with. so if you like to lock yourself in the basement, then you mine as well get a 360 or better yet a ps3.

[darkbenny]

why not take a chance on the Wii, if you can get it dirt cheap.

[casualsax3]

The Wii will be relegated to the same niche fate that the Gamecube was. Get a 360 or a PS3, as they will have brighter futures.

[Deathlike2]

Get a 360, as it will have a brighter future.

Fixed.

[casualsax3]

I'm still confident that in spite of all all of Sony's fuckups, the PS3 will enjoy the similar success that the PS1 and PS2 saw.

[Joe Camacho]

If you want to get a Wii to play a bunch of GC games, it might be better just to get a used GC for like 50 dlls.

[ReRuss]

Unless you're gonna get some Wii games , then just get a GC

I havnt played mine a whole lot , but I played some VC games and sports

[Deathlike2]

I'm still confident that in spite of all all of Sony's fuckups, the PS3 will enjoy the similar success that the PS1 and PS2 saw.

I would love to see success, but the reality shows that opposite is occuring. To realistically believe that is as good as smoking some Wiid.

[Panzer88]

things are happening now, but really this first year will all be forgotten. It's impossible to know what will happen in the future. Regardless of Nintendo's mass market statements, the real mass market has not chosen any system yet. The mass market does not early adopt, but buys a system about 2 years in. Then and only then will we REALLY know if the Wii will hold to it's word, or if everyone will buy playstation like they always have.

OR.... microsoft will suck in the market

OR.... they will all see mediocre success.

The Wii has great potential but so far their so called "Wii24connect" is a joke, Live is kicking butt, and even Playstation Home looks like it's going to pass up the Wii, even if it's a rip off of Live.

[Neo Kaiser]

It all depend if Sony manages to create a cheaper way to produce Cells and Blu-ray discs. They should gone with the 45nm technology to reduce the Cell cost instead of 65nm. Now to respond the thread's question OF COURSE you should buy the Wii for that excellent price.

[Gil_Hamilton]

It all depend if Sony manages to create a cheaper way to produce Cells and Blu-ray discs. They should gone with the 45nm technology to reduce the Cell cost instead of 65nm. Now to respond the thread's question OF COURSE you should buy the Wii for that excellent price.

No, what Sony should have done is ...

Not reached so far on the CPU(the Cell is an obscenely large chip, and consequently has low yields regardless of fabrication technique, though cutting-edge fab techs would only increase their yield problems due to the higher failure rate on the new processes),

Not used the PS3 as a vehicle to sell BluRay(the BD-ROM is obscenely expensive),

Settled with Immersion instead of getting in a pissing match and stripping force-feedback from their controllers,

Actually redesigned the controller instead of jury-rigging analog triggers and motion tracking(Hey, remember the Sidewinder Freestyle Pro? Yeah, motion tracking sucks in a conventional pad housing) onto a decade-old design,

NOT told SCEA to fuck off and die when they presented a plan, complete with devkit libraries, for integrating online functionality into every PS3 game on the market that would have made the PS3's networking support the equivalent of the 360's XBox Live service,

And not been giant self-important cocks to everyone.
When you're publicly stating that it doesn't matter what you're selling, because people will buy your product solely based on name; that you expect people to get a second job so they can afford your system; that you are infinitely better than everyone else and if they don't agree they can go to hell, then there's been a MASSIVE PR failure.



At this point, Sony is making all the mistakes Sega, Atari, and Nintendo made right before their falls from grace, and I don't see the PS3D0 as having a snowball's chance in Hell without a complete management shakedown and some rapid price cuts to boost sales.

To hell with the fact that they're ALREADY losing a half grand on every unit they sell. They're gonna lose a lot more than that if it fails to gain traction and software support dries up(which is already happening). They NEED to get the PS3 moving off shelves and into houses, and price cuts will do that.

[Deathlike2]

It all depend if Sony manages to create a cheaper way to produce Cells and Blu-ray discs. They should gone with the 45nm technology to reduce the Cell cost instead of 65nm. Now to respond the thread's question OF COURSE you should buy the Wii for that excellent price.

No, what Sony should have done is ...

Not reached so far on the CPU(the Cell is an obscenely large chip, and consequently has low yields regardless of fabrication technique, though cutting-edge fab techs would only increase their yield problems due to the higher failure rate on the new processes),

Yes, the yield is everything in regards to production. The lower the yield, the more money you will spend per wafer, and subsequently longer to produce (delays are a horrible thing in this industry).

Not used the PS3 as a vehicle to sell BluRay(the BD-ROM is obscenely expensive),

There is a reason why MS didn't follow through the same method in the 360. $$$ speaks volumes.

And not been giant self-important cocks to everyone.
When you're publicly stating that it doesn't matter what you're selling, because people will buy your product solely based on name; that you expect people to get a second job so they can afford your system; that you are infinitely better than everyone else and if they don't agree they can go to hell, then there's been a MASSIVE PR failure.

When you associate a product that is targeted for "the wealthy", you are cutting the blood that is your major core of users (the middle class).

At this point, Sony is making all the mistakes Sega, Atari, and Nintendo made right before their falls from grace, and I don't see the PS3D0 as having a snowball's chance in Hell without a complete management shakedown and some rapid price cuts to boost sales.

History dictates a lot of things. People that prefer to repeat those mistakes are welcomed to doom themselves.

To hell with the fact that they're ALREADY losing a half grand on every unit they sell. They're gonna lose a lot more than that if it fails to gain traction and software support dries up(which is already happening). They NEED to get the PS3 moving off shelves and into houses, and price cuts will do that.

Well, that also takes heavy profit losses (or in Sony's case, just losing money period).. but it can salvage the PS3.... perhaps.

[snkcube]

It's hard to tell how all next-gen systems will do. Maybe in a year or so, we'll see how the console race will turn out.

[PHoNyMiKe]

why don't you all just shut the fuck up and go buy a next gen system. I bought a wii, I love it, I plan to buy a 360 so I can play bioshock. it's my choice. and if anybody has an issue, here's a tissue.

[Tallgeese]

NOT told SCEA to fuck off and die when they presented a plan, complete with devkit libraries, for integrating online functionality into every PS3 game on the market that would have made the PS3's networking support the equivalent of the 360's XBox Live service.

Wait what? Do explain this, with links verifying it if possible.

[Deathlike2]

It's hard to tell how all next-gen systems will do. Maybe in a year or so, we'll see how the console race will turn out.

Well, the local PR around here has been suggesting that developers have been dropping a fair number of PS3 titles, which says a lot about Sony (this isn't really hard to believe though).

[Neo Kaiser]

I don't know but I have this feeling that Nvidia will build their own console...I don't know why I think about it.

[funkyass]

I don't know but I have this feeling that Nvidia will build their own console...I don't know why I think about it.

its a good idea never to repeat the mistakes of a company you've acquired.

they are not going to pull a 3dfx and go into competition with their former/current customers.

[corronchilejano]

Well, supposedly the PS3 is getting new games that DO actually use the, ehm... new *cough* stolen *cough* feature of the PS3 controller, and it IS getting exclusive games (as everything else was a port). Still, we WILL have to wait for a year or so.

If you have a lot of friends to play however, I'd go for the Wii. Halo can't beat that, honest.

http://nexgenwars.com/

If you still don't have it.

[Gil_Hamilton]

NOT told SCEA to fuck off and die when they presented a plan, complete with devkit libraries, for integrating online functionality into every PS3 game on the market that would have made the PS3's networking support the equivalent of the 360's XBox Live service.

Wait what? Do explain this, with links verifying it if possible.

I saw it a while back. Don't recall where, but it WAS a reputable source.

Basically, SCEA developed a complete, comprehensive online plan, with easy-to-use libraries and everything, and focused on netplay.
They brought it to SCEI for approval.
SCEI told them that they didn't want it, netplay wasn't important, and banned them from distributing the libraries to developers.

[Joe Camacho]

SCEI? Sony Computer Entertainment International?

[grinvader]

SCEI? Sony Computer Entertainment International?

Incorporated. The japan-bound mother branch.

[Neo Kaiser]

I don't know but I have this feeling that Nvidia will build their own console...I don't know why I think about it.

its a good idea never to repeat the mistakes of a company you've acquired.

they are not going to pull a 3dfx and go into competition with their former/current customers.

I mean on the future gen. Maybe Intel is more willing to release a console since the 3 consoles have IBM chips.