code problems with Secret of mana

jasondickstein71 · Post by **jasondickstein71** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:30 pm

I don't know what it is abot Secret of Mana but everytime I use game genie codes or PAR codes with that rom, it causes the rom to stop working. Either it's a graphics issue or zsnes shuts off and I have to reopen it. Is there a particular code that causes this that I should remove or does this rom not work well with codes? If anyone knows I would appreciate it.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:51 pm

Read this, particularly the last line: http://board.zsnes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9800

Post by **grinvader** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:07 pm

No problems at all with PAR codes.

(Note: some F-Zero stuff at the top - also mostly french, since I did this fucklong and a half ago)

jasondickstein71 · Post by **jasondickstein71** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:31 pm

The issue with secret of Mana isn't what the codes do if they work or not. The issue is that the codes affect the rom such as graphics like the rom freezes up and there is no picture just sound. It has an adverse affect on the rom. It is the only rom that has that problem. I have the info for the rom:

Name: Secret of MANA
Speed: 21/SlowROM
ROM Map: HiROM
Type: 02
Kart contents: ROM+RAM+BAT
Header ROM Size: 16Mbits
Calculated ROM Size: 16 Mbits
SRAM size: 8KB (64Kbit)
Actual Checksum: 51FC
Header Checksum: 51FC
Header Checksum Compliment: AE03
Output: NTSC 60Hz
CRC32: D0176B24
Licensee: Square
ROM Version: 1.0
Region: USA/Canada

Thanks.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:23 pm

Dude... you didn't even bother to provide codes so someone can reproduce your problem.

Codes can crash/freeze up a game, like it would on the original console. Very often it is not ZSNES's problem, but the code that is the actual problem.

jasondickstein71 · Post by **jasondickstein71** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:42 pm

Always get Doom Trap from a Tsunami:
0DCC-0DA4

Always get a treasure cheat:
6DA6-846D
DFA6-84AD
Alternate code: 12C6-BB79

Invincibility:
84E3-6745

Hero will automatically do his highest attack without charging up:
FE67-AA72

Protection from hits or magic, 1-hit kills most opponents:
8AA8-74DD
82A8-77AD

Unlimited energy, quick power ups, 1-hit kills:
8AA8-74DD
82A8-77AD
6DAA-776D
82AA-776D

Weapon skill increases quickly:
5EA9-E40D

Magic skill increases very quickly.:
5EA3-5507

Start new game with 65,280 GP:
EE28-EFDF

Chest in Elder's basement in Potos gives 65360 GP:
EE6B-8738

Get chest in the Elder's basement repeatedly:
E36C-8738

raises the HP of level 16 to 995.:
CEA6-810D

Strength for level 16 is 90:
9CA6-81AD
Agility for level 16 is 90:
9CA6-85DD
Constitution for level 16 is 90:
9CA6-850D
Intelligence for level 16 is 90:
9CA6-856D
Wisdom for level 16 is 90:
9CA6-85AD
Candy costs nothing:
DDEB-E544
Chocolate costs nothing:
DDEB-E5C4
Royal jam costs nothing:
DDEC-E044
Faerie walnut costs nothing:
DDEC-E0C4
DDEC-E034
Medical herb costs nothing:
DDEC-E944
Cup of wishes costs nothing:
DDEC-E9C4
Bandanna costs nothing:
DDE8-E9C4
Hair ribbon costs nothing:
DDE8-E144
Rabite cap costs nothing:
DDE8-E1C4
Overalls costs nothing:
DDE3-E044
Wristband costs nothing:
DDE7-7047

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Hero level:
7EE18DFF
7EE18EFF
All codes above from Paul.
Girl level:
7EE38DFF
7EE3EDFF
Sprite level:
7EE58DFF
7EE58EFF
All codes above from Ankur Butala.
Hit an opponent to gain a level:
16DE0510
A91B0510
Maximum money:
7ECC6CBF
Lock Girl's MP at 99:
7EE38663
Invincibility:
7EE182FF
7EE183FF
All codes above from Springo.
Glove level 9:
7ECC5408
7ECFB008
Sword level 9:
7ECC5508
7ECFB108
Axe level 9:
7ECC5608
7ECFB208
Spear level 9:
7ECC5708
7ECFB308
Whip level 9:
7ECC5808
7ECFB408
Bow and Arrow level 9:
7ECC5908
7ECFB508
Boomerang level 9:
7ECC5A08
7ECFB608
Pole Dart level 9:
7ECC5B08
7ECFB708
All codes above from Jon.
9,999,999 experience for Hero:
7EE18D7F
7EE18E96
7EE18F98
9,999,999 experience for Girl:
7EE38D7F
7EE38E96
7EE38F98
9,999,999 experience for Sprite:
7EE58D7F
7EE58E96
7EE58F98
All codes above from Lord X-Calibur.

Sorr about that dude, but those are the codes I used before I started the game.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:50 pm

That's still not helpful. You need to isolate the faulty code that doesn't work. You would have to test a particular code one by one.

Then again, you haven't paid attention to my original premise...

Codes can crash/freeze up a game, like it would on the original console. Very often it is not ZSNES's problem, but the code that is the actual problem.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:42 am

Why even bother playing the game if you're gonna use that many codes?

Invincibility, 1-hit kills, instant max charge attacks, stats hacked to the max, cash hacked to the max, free everything(isn't the cash hack redundant at that point?), instant level-ups...
And to top it off you have duplicate codes and a mix of Game Genie and PAR codes that conflict with each other?

Dumping that many hacks onto ANY game is a Bad Idea.
Using conflicting codes is a Very Bad Idea.
And doing both of the above to a game that's ALREADY as glitch-riddled as Secret of Mana is a Really Fucking Stupid Idea.

jasondickstein71 · Post by **jasondickstein71** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:11 am

I took your advice and I kept removing codes that related to invincibility, level increase etc. Each time I did this I would start the game with the remaining codes but the same thing happened: when the hero tries to pull the sword out at the beginning of the game the screen goes blank. More codes are removed and the same result. The only codes I have left are codes that relate to just money items that are free, but the same thing happens again: the screen goes blank just as the sword is being pulled out. I am getting the impression that this rom can't work with any codes.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:16 am

just keep removing them, its bound to just be one unlikely code, when you find it you can start adding the other codes one by one again.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:35 am

The fact that you are enabling 10+ lines of codes is enough for one stupid code to be suspect.

Start small instead and stop using multiple codes that you never ever need enabled at the same time.

whicker · Post by **whicker** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:36 am

jasondickstein71 wrote:I took your advice and I kept removing codes that related to invincibility, level increase etc. Each time I did this I would start the game with the remaining codes but the same thing happened: when the hero tries to pull the sword out at the beginning of the game the screen goes blank. More codes are removed and the same result. The only codes I have left are codes that relate to just money items that are free, but the same thing happens again: the screen goes blank just as the sword is being pulled out. I am getting the impression that this rom can't work with any codes.

Disable all cheats UNTIL you are at the point where you need them.

For the cheats that constantly write a value to WRAM (Stands for Work Random Access Memory), to any programmer it's blatantly obvious why it can and does cause crashes. Square's RPG's seem to use a lot more stack-based memory structures than other games... in other words they are not dedicating an exact RAM address location to any one particular thing.

cas · Post by **cas** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:44 am

Wow that's a lot of codes. Try the easy way; remove all codes and THEN enter one. If it works, enter another. repeat until something breaks.

Then try that code on its own. If it crashes again, then that code is bad. If it works, then its a combination of codes.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:14 pm

Let me make this clear..

It is NOT the ROM's fault that it doesn't work.

It is NOT ZSNES's fault that it doesn't work.

It is your fault for enabling 10+ codes and expecting them to ALL WORK.

Fair warning: If I have to repeat that, I will get nasty about it because you are simply not understanding the issue at hand.

the statement I pointed you to earlier, but probably didn't read wrote:Important: Please do not report cheat issues in the Bugs forum. They are not ZSNES bugs. Some codes do change the behavior of the game on the real console and some effects from the cheat can prevent you from progressing through a game and/or cause undesirable behavior.

The best example, a screwed up SOM game because of cheats in use: http://board.zsnes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... =tropic%2A