Suggestions for best C64 and Atari800 emulator

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:37 am

I'm looking for the best C64 and Atari800 emulators (and other legacy systems for that matter, there are just a few games on those systems that my brother used to love to play and he is visiting for the weekend so I was gonna try to get them so he can re-live his childhood days of games.

gllt · Post by **gllt** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:19 pm

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I really don't know, I always used whatever I could find, doesn't MAME do that stuff or MESS or something.

Post by **Agozer** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:19 pm

I hear that CCS64 is one of the best. Don't know anything about Atari800 emulators, though.

Post by **grinvader** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:05 pm

Panzer88 wrote:can re-live his childhood days of games.

I suggest a magnum bottle of schnapps.

Can't go wrong with that.

h4tred · Post by **h4tred** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:28 pm

If you have AT LEAST a high end C2D, Hoxs64 (sp?) is the best C64 emulator. Mainly due to the extreme level of cycle accuracy its so intensive.....

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:47 pm

h4tred wrote:If you have AT LEAST a high end C2D, Hoxs64 (sp?) is the best C64 emulator. Mainly due to the extreme level of cycle accuracy its so intensive.....

That's ridiculous!! The C64 was just a 1.02MHz machine. How can it take a processor that's 2,000x more powerful to emulate it? Seriously, what kind of asshole makes an old-school 2D emulator that requires a Core 2 to get full speed? >:(

It's also not Free Software ... and it doesn't even have save states! WTF??

escapee · Post by **escapee** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:19 pm

For C64, VICE: http://www.viceteam.org/

h4tred · Post by **h4tred** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:37 am

byuu wrote:That's ridiculous!! The C64 was just a 1.02MHz machine. How can it take a processor that's 2,000x more powerful to emulate it?

Easy.

Hoxs64 website wrote: * Cycle based CPU, CIA, VIC and SID.
* 1541 Disk drive.
* Tape deck.
* Full screen mode.
* Configurable keyboard and joystick.
* TAP PRG P00 D64 G64 FDI T64 file support.

Everything is cycle (or even subcycle) based. Including the graphics chips. The SID ain't bad considering reSID does a nice job doing a cycle accurate emulating of it.

Not to be mean, but if this requires a C2D for everything done per cycle, I can't begin to fathom when you start the cycle accurate PPU for your emu. No offense.

Seriously, what kind of asshole makes an old-school 2D emulator that requires a Core 2 to get full speed?

Not a asshole, just someone who has a extreme amount of time on thier hands to put that much effort into accuracy.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:48 am

h4tred wrote:Easy ... Not to be mean, but if this requires a C2D for everything done per cycle, I can't begin to fathom when you start the cycle accurate PPU for your emu. No offense ... Not a asshole, just someone who has a extreme amount of time on thier hands to put that much effort into accuracy.

Post by **odditude** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:49 am

seriously, you two are like the odd couple.

@op: i've never had any issues with atari800win.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:56 am

odditude wrote:seriously, you two are like the odd couple.

I'm Felix :D

h4tred · Post by **h4tred** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:09 am

i've never had any issues with atari800win.

Nice. Been looking for decent Atari/Amiga emus myself, since theres heaps of decent demoscene stuff around for them. Seeing what those crazy buggers do is insane.

Post by **odditude** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:16 am

i grew up with an a400 (which was replaced by a 130xe), so it's all pure nostalgia for me.

archon on atari 8-bit = pure, unadulterated win.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:43 am

Atari800Win++ is still the best Atari 8bit emu, far as I know.

Unless you wanna play the 5200 instead of the computers. Then it's incredibly frustrating, and hackish beyond belief. UGH!
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Bent · Post by **Bent** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:16 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:Atari800Win++ is still the best Atari 8bit emu, far as I know.

Unless you wanna play the 5200 instead of the computers. Then it's incredibly frustrating, and hackish beyond belief. UGH!
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So has anyone made a decent 5200 emu yet? I think this was the last one I used, and it was pretty much the best I could find at the time.

gllt · Post by **gllt** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:02 pm

odditude wrote:seriously, you two are like the odd couple.

@op: i've never had any issues with atari800win.

durr says odditude

AamirM · Post by **AamirM** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:17 pm

byuu wrote:That's ridiculous!! The C64 was just a 1.02MHz machine. How can it take a processor that's 2,000x more powerful to emulate it? Seriously, what kind of asshole makes an old-school 2D emulator that requires a Core 2 to get full speed? >:(

Thats because:

:P

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:50 am

Bent wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:Atari800Win++ is still the best Atari 8bit emu, far as I know.

Unless you wanna play the 5200 instead of the computers. Then it's incredibly frustrating, and hackish beyond belief. UGH!
</tangent>
So has anyone made a decent 5200 emu yet? I think this was the last one I used, and it was pretty much the best I could find at the time.

I think the last time I bothered, I just used MESS.

It's frustrating because the emulation is all there. Someone just has to care enough to write some functional input code..

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