New SNES and N64 flash carts

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:38 am

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=159250

they don't appear to bring anything new to the table, but they look like they'll be a little more mainstream than what the guys here already have.

PHoNyMiKe · Post by **PHoNyMiKe** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:42 pm

Post by **grinvader** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:00 pm

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* can run DSP games if plug in the DSP game cart, so can support over 99% games

read: not supporting over 99% games. someone dedicated can count the real amount they're missing (all the other extra chips).

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* can use on any SNES/SFC console, just need insert any one SNES/SFC cart for boot

read: not even fucking assed to add a cic.

PHoNyMiKe · Post by **PHoNyMiKe** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:12 pm

the dsp games need different dsp carts. so assuming you have say mario kart, ballz, and super 3d baseball, that should cover the dsp games. all the other ones like starfox, star ocean, momotaro densetsu happy train, doom, f1 race of champions 2 and shit should be less than 1% of games.

Post by **badinsults** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:06 pm

grinvader wrote:
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* can run DSP games if plug in the DSP game cart, so can support over 99% games
read: not supporting over 99% games. someone dedicated can count the real amount they're missing (all the other extra chips).
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* can use on any SNES/SFC console, just need insert any one SNES/SFC cart for boot
read: not even fucking assed to add a cic.

I know, how fucking lame is it that you need to plug in a cart on the back in order to use the flash cart. SNES CICs are pretty cheap, and available at Tototek. What a half assed production.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:39 pm

Isn't Tototek just destroying crappy used games to get their CICs? Last I checked, we haven't yet cloned the CIC like we have for the NES ...

I mean I'm sure nobody really cares about crappy SNES games, but it'd still be nice if we didn't have to destroy games to make these things.

Post by **badinsults** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:00 am

byuu wrote:Isn't Tototek just destroying crappy used games to get their CICs? Last I checked, we haven't yet cloned the CIC like we have for the NES ...

I mean I'm sure nobody really cares about crappy SNES games, but it'd still be nice if we didn't have to destroy games to make these things.

Well, the image on the Tototek site is not an official SNES CIC. I imagine they must be salvaging them from games, but I mean some games can be had for a buck (like sports games).

If they must use another cart to bypass, at the very least they could use something less awkward than having to plug it into the back. I have a Pro Action Replay that requires this, and it sucks. Stability rules.

Post by **Nach** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:37 am

SA-1 alone is 1% of the games.
The amount this can't play is more like 2.5-3%.

Edit:
Above figures are by amount of unique commercial ROM images available. If we were to go by unique games, since most special chip games ESPECIALLY the SA-1 only came out in one version, the number is more like 5%.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:24 am

You know how my reading skills are. That said, by one version you're referring to the revision codes (v1.0, v1.1, etc) right? What happens then if you also filter out by considering all regions and revisions as one single title? Eg Final Fantasy 6 = one game, not one for each country and/or revision?

Also, would you be able to tell us the total #s of all three categories? Eg:
# of unique commercially released ROM images that we know about.
# of unique commercially released games, including regional variants.
# of unique commercially released games, excluding regional variants.

Post by **Nach** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:20 am

byuu wrote:You know how my reading skills are. That said, by one version you're referring to the revision codes (v1.0, v1.1, etc) right? What happens then if you also filter out by considering all regions and revisions as one single title? Eg Final Fantasy 6 = one game, not one for each country and/or revision?

I said unique game.

byuu wrote: Also, would you be able to tell us the total #s of all three categories? Eg:
# of unique commercially released ROM images that we know about.
# of unique commercially released games, including regional variants.
# of unique commercially released games, excluding regional variants.

I could if I cared to write the SQL statements

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:26 am

Nach wrote:I said unique game.

Thanks for answering my question :)

paulguy · Post by **paulguy** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:50 pm

Apparently you need to get one of their DS flash carts to use it? That's pretty lame. Also, having it read from SD card would be considerably better than USB transfer. Who knows whether that'll work in linux or future versions of Windows when it gets abandoned and not updated.

Exophase · Post by **Exophase** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:29 pm

SNES aside, if the N64 one is for real then this could be important news. Getting an N64 copier or dev cart these days is very difficult, and N64 was never thoroughly enough reverse engineered.

I think it's better to use games as bypass then destroy games to get the chips >_>

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:12 pm

The problem with the SNES though is that game cartridges tend to sit loosely in the unit rather then snugly like with the N64, So something like a gentle breeze can move the SNES game cartridge and screw the game up.