secret of mana hard mode

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:36 am

ah, I see, you always seemed older. eh whatever.

Mark57Raider · Post by **Mark57Raider** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:19 pm

Yeah after what the arrogant soulmata did to him, I wouldn't see him returning here to zsnes.

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:37 pm

who takes the soul seriously?

Johan_H · Post by **Johan_H** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:22 pm

Oskar generally takes the Internet much too seriously. Whatever.

Has anyone else played the entire game in MP?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:09 pm

Johan_Hanberg wrote:Oskar generally takes the Internet much too seriously. Whatever.

Has anyone else played the entire game in MP?

On the original console, yes. Unfortunately, not with multitap.

Post by **odditude** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:22 pm

Deathlike2 wrote:
Johan_Hanberg wrote:Has anyone else played the entire game in MP?
On the original console, yes. Unfortunately, not with multitap.

Ditto. It's fun to abuse physical attacks against enemies who can be hit in their stun/knockdown animations. Captain Duck volleyball, anyone?

Rydian · Post by **Rydian** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:18 am

Generally looks more like hockey to me...

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:35 am

odditude, if you are still looking to do the SOM magic algos, do them here: http://slickproductions.org/forum/index.php?board=5.0

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:49 am

odditude wrote:As a side note, is this patch compatible with FuSoYa's patch? I've been looking forward to playing with that, also.

http://www.hard-som.de/en/index.php

News

08.01.2008 - Added patch for the japanese version and VWF edition combi-patch changed readme

Fireball's damage was swapped with Lava Wave though.. as far as I can tell anyways. (This has nothing to do with the hack, this is specifically an SOM error.)

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:24 am

I'm always amazed at how buggy SoM and FF6 are.
It's like Square just decided beta tests were for sissies.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:35 am

Gil_Hamilton wrote:I'm always amazed at how buggy SoM and FF6 are.
It's like Square just decided beta tests were for sissies.

Well, SOM was never really "finished" properly (bah to the fabled SNES CD). FF6 bugs are composed of a battle engine that never properly tested every crazy ass theoretical combo. Sometimes when you add something cool, you may forget that something else doesn't quite work properly.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:47 am

Deathlike2 wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:I'm always amazed at how buggy SoM and FF6 are.
It's like Square just decided beta tests were for sissies.
Well, SOM was never really "finished" properly (bah to the fabled SNES CD). FF6 bugs are composed of a battle engine that never properly tested every crazy ass theoretical combo. Sometimes when you add something cool, you may forget that something else doesn't quite work properly.

I know on SoM. It's still a tad stunning at times.

FF6 has some just plain dumb mistakes, though. Like evade not being used for anything.
The infamous "sketch bug," while not being just completely out in front, is amazing in just how BIG it is.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:52 am

Gil_Hamilton wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:I'm always amazed at how buggy SoM and FF6 are.
It's like Square just decided beta tests were for sissies.
Well, SOM was never really "finished" properly (bah to the fabled SNES CD). FF6 bugs are composed of a battle engine that never properly tested every crazy ass theoretical combo. Sometimes when you add something cool, you may forget that something else doesn't quite work properly.
I know on SoM. It's still a tad stunning at times.

FF6 has some just plain dumb mistakes, though. Like evade not being used for anything.
The infamous "sketch bug," while not being just completely out in front, is amazing in just how BIG it is.

Well, the evade+vanish/doom bug is pretty bad. When the Force Shield and other Magic Evade blocking equipment is blocking weapon hits, it should be damn obvious sooner or later.

The Sketch bug was fixed in US v1.1 AFAIK. However, that bug is hard to have envisioned being triggered under many normal circumstances.

Post by **odditude** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:57 am

My original FFIII cart was actually defective in some way - I ended up with a presumably corrupt game save in the Fanatics' Tower. (Climbing to the top triggered the swarm of followers that prevented you from leaving, but never triggered the boss fight.) Fortunately, it was within warranty, and after I sent the cart to them and they duplicated the issue they sent me a replacement.

Deathlike - Thanks for the links and the news update on the patch.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:50 am

Deathlike2 wrote: The Sketch bug was fixed in US v1.1 AFAIK. However, that bug is hard to have envisioned being triggered under many normal circumstances.

And yet everyone found it.

Honestly, some of the glitches(like self-destructing enemies) are just hilarious.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/snes/file/554041/34007

Post by **grinvader** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:24 pm

Johan_Hanberg wrote:Has anyone else played the entire game in MP?

<- 2 pads, one player.

Funnily the french PAL release (aside from the horrible translation - I still got a major grudge on that effin' Veronique Chantel) is pretty low on bugs.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:32 am

Finally beat the damned hack.

Johan_H · Post by **Johan_H** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:14 pm

We're finishing the unhacked game tomorrow probably, I hadn't seen Shadow Zero before...

So about how much harder is the hack?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:15 am

Johan_Hanberg wrote:We're finishing the unhacked game tomorrow probably, I hadn't seen Shadow Zero before...

So about how much harder is the hack?

Enough to make you piss your pants at times.