LOL Thread

alexz721 · Post by **alexz721** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:33 am

Entertaining!

I.S.T. · Post by **I.S.T.** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:50 am

Franky wrote:Well, basically my argument is that if I don't use it, it's useless.

GENIUS

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:15 am

DancemasterGlenn wrote:Long story short, you do have the right to say whatever you want, and you've been playing your cards in a way where you're likely never going to commit a bannable offense.

He could probably be banned for excessive trolling if he keeps wandering into threads ranting about how everyone's stupid and they should use Nestopia instead.
I'm not paying close attention to most such threads, but... from what I AM seeing, if I were in charge he'd be headed for a rule 0 violation.

I do love the freedom of speech argument.
Tel me, Franky... do you write angry letters to the newspaper every time they fail to publish your article? Or when you call the radio station and they don't put you on the air?
Same premise here. You're quite welcome to start your own venue for your idiocy. And we're welcome to mock it.

As far as your right to disagree to those rules...
I'm no lawyer, but I DO have Phoenix Wright's hair, so...
It seems to me that in signing up for an account on the ZSNES Message Board, hereafter referred to as "the forums", and checking the box stating you read and agree to follow all the rules, you entered into a contract with the administrators of the forums in which you agreed to abide by the posted rules as a condition for using their bandwidth and storage space to engage in dialog with other individuals on the forums.

So you're statement that you disagree with the rules and refuse to abide by them seems to my unexpert eye to be construable as breach of contract.

May I request the assessment of someone with actual legal training?
*looks up a few posts*

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:52 am

DancemasterGlenn wrote:Long story short, you do have the right to say whatever you want, and you've been playing your cards in a way where you're likely never going to commit a bannable offense.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. In modern society and law, NO ONE has the "right to say whatever you want". NO NO NO NO.

Gil_Hamilton wrote: He could probably be banned for excessive trolling if he keeps wandering into threads ranting about how everyone's stupid and they should use Nestopia instead.
I'm not paying close attention to most such threads, but... from what I AM seeing, if I were in charge he'd be headed for a rule 0 violation.

I do love the freedom of speech argument.
Tel me, Franky... do you write angry letters to the newspaper every time they fail to publish your article? Or when you call the radio station and they don't put you on the air?
Same premise here. You're quite welcome to start your own venue for your idiocy. And we're welcome to mock it.

As far as your right to disagree to those rules...
I'm no lawyer, but I DO have Phoenix Wright's hair, so...
It seems to me that in signing up for an account on the ZSNES Message Board, hereafter referred to as "the forums", and checking the box stating you read and agree to follow all the rules, you entered into a contract with the administrators of the forums in which you agreed to abide by the posted rules as a condition for using their bandwidth and storage space to engage in dialog with other individuals on the forums.

So you're statement that you disagree with the rules and refuse to abide by them seems to my unexpert eye to be construable as breach of contract.

May I request the assessment of someone with actual legal training?
*looks up a few posts*

What you are looking for is "adhesive contracts", adhesive contracts, contrary to ordinary contracts, in which both parts discuss and agree about the various clauses, in adhesive contracts one party settles all the clauses and the other just agrees or the contract isn't made.

But well, taking into account that a forum isn't a public place, being maintained by a private party, with it's own terms of services and rules, who agrees to follow said rules and then breaks them, the offended part is totally legitimate to break the agreement and ban.

Then again, taking into account that any *SANE* judge in the free world would dismiss a lawsuit against a private message board stating that they are "DAMAGING YOUR RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT" relating two emulators from a console you can find inside cereal boxes.

The way I see it, even waiting for a forumer to break a rule is being too nice, regarding banning, but these rules are what are setting the bases to what we know as Informatic or Cybernetic Law.

DancemasterGlenn · Post by **DancemasterGlenn** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:29 am

Haha, sorry Joe. I'm sure my post is full of holes, but I hope the rest is for the most part sound.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:07 am

Muchos gracias. I didn't even know there WAS a legal difference between contract types(ignoring the obvious issue of verbal contracts degenerating into a he-said she-said situation when disputes arise).

mudlord · Post by **mudlord** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:25 am

I said this in the thread about rocknes and I will say it again: why bother with anything other than nestopia?

Nestopia is perfect, FCEU is not.

I'd say one thing: People have choices.

People have choices to use other emus if thier PC is not up to scratch (like with BSNES, people could use SNESGT as its accurate too), or if one thing is missing in a particular emu.

In modern society and law, NO ONE has the "right to say whatever you want". NO NO NO NO.

And thats where you fail Franky. There are indeed limits on "free speech".

Johan_H · Post by **Johan_H** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:07 am

I might also add that using FREE SPEECH!! as an excuse for saying stupid things and not backing them up is extremely lame, no matter what legal rights you might have.

Post by **odditude** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:13 am

Joe Camacho wrote:
DancemasterGlenn wrote:Long story short, you do have the right to say whatever you want, and you've been playing your cards in a way where you're likely never going to commit a bannable offense.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. In modern society and law, NO ONE has the "right to say whatever you want". NO NO NO NO.

mmm, libel and slander. you're my hero, lawyerman!

btw, did capcom tap you for megaman 10 yet?

Post by **grinvader** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:14 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:I DO have Phoenix Wright's hair

you totally broke my saucesomepan
but in a good way

like

you can use the sharp bits to kill stuff with
awesomely

I.S.T. · Post by **I.S.T.** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:16 pm

odditude wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:
DancemasterGlenn wrote:Long story short, you do have the right to say whatever you want, and you've been playing your cards in a way where you're likely never going to commit a bannable offense.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. In modern society and law, NO ONE has the "right to say whatever you want". NO NO NO NO.
mmm, libel and slander. you're my hero, lawyerman!

btw, did capcom tap you for megaman 10 yet?

neoblaze · Post by **neoblaze** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:57 pm

Yeah I guess this thread fails.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:26 pm

neoblaze wrote:Yeah I guess this thread fails.

Of course dude, look who started it.

although to be fair this stupidity was started in another thread and this was split right the fuck out of it

Silensho · Post by **Silensho** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:59 pm

Franky wrote:You guys seem to be calling me idiot (and maybe other names) and yet you offer no arguments against mine.
Hypocrisy?

You can make me look like an idiot all you want, but in the end, you might eventually realize that it is the other way round.

Franky's post in other thread wrote:The fact that I'm being called names (like "idiot") pleases me more.

So they're just pleasing you.