Lesser known (good) NES(/Famicom) games

DOLLS (J) [!] · Post by **DOLLS (J) [!]** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:25 am

Snake Rattle 'n' Roll.

Oh, and the weird one with the little cowboy that turns into a woodlouse, quite mario-like. Anyone remember the title?

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:07 am

alyxx wrote:You haven't heard much C64 music then. I love the C64 sound.

Or perhaps I have different tastes. That could be it too.
CRAZY, I know!

And I want a different flavour because I like different flavours. The music doesn't have to change just because it has different sounds.

Yes, it kinda DOES have to change to sound different.

Johan_H · Post by **Johan_H** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:27 am

Gil_Hamilton wrote:(I'm not a fan of what I've heard from the C64, for what it's worth.)

Then you have been doing it wrong!

There are some Megaman SID remixes in the HVSC, BTW. None from II though.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:43 am

Johan_H wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:(I'm not a fan of what I've heard from the C64, for what it's worth.)
Then you have been doing it wrong!

Gil_Hamilton wrote: Or perhaps I have different tastes. That could be it too.
CRAZY, I know!

alyxx · Post by **alyxx** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:23 pm

I meant that the melodies and riffs remain the same but with a different sound, sorry I didn't make myself clear.

I am always open for re-interpretation and remixing. Why are you so much against that?

Post by **grinvader** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:24 pm

Most remixes rape the original author intent.

Never been a big fan of non-author-made remixes.

alyxx · Post by **alyxx** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:29 pm

grinvader wrote:Most remixes rape the original author intent.

Never been a big fan of non-author-made remixes.

I disagree. I think remixes can often offer a different view on one theme and add something new to it.

crocomire · Post by **crocomire** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:52 pm

Conquest of the Crystal Palace

alyxx · Post by **alyxx** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:19 pm

crocomire wrote:Conquest of the Crystal Palace

I'm playing it now. It's... strange. O.o

And a bit challenging too.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:44 pm

Conquest of the Crystal Palace.... isn't that the Dragonball game?

alyxx wrote:I meant that the melodies and riffs remain the same but with a different sound, sorry I didn't make myself clear.

I am always open for re-interpretation and remixing. Why are you so much against that?

I'm just questioning that you would call it one of the best-sounding games of the era, then immediately turn around and wish it was different.

If you don't see that as a contradiction...
It's like saying "Man, this is the best guitar solo ever! I wish there was an orchestral version!"

DOLLS (J) [!] · Post by **DOLLS (J) [!]** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:57 pm

DOLLS (J) [!] wrote:Oh, and the weird one with the little cowboy that turns into a woodlouse, quite mario-like. Anyone remember the title?

Bump!

alyxx · Post by **alyxx** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:19 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:Conquest of the Crystal Palace.... isn't that the Dragonball game?

alyxx wrote:I meant that the melodies and riffs remain the same but with a different sound, sorry I didn't make myself clear.

I am always open for re-interpretation and remixing. Why are you so much against that?
I'm just questioning that you would call it one of the best-sounding games of the era, then immediately turn around and wish it was different.

If you don't see that as a contradiction...
It's like saying "Man, this is the best guitar solo ever! I wish there was an orchestral version!"

Well, I am the kind of person who would say that sort of thing. It might be a contradiction to you but it makes perfect sense to me. I am a musician myself and I love all kinds of music. I've heard a techno/futurepop version of Metallica's Fade To Black and it kicked ass despite not having any guitars in it.

Johan_H · Post by **Johan_H** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:32 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:I'm just questioning that you would call it one of the best-sounding games of the era, then immediately turn around and wish it was different.

To be fair he wishes for more versions of the tunes, not really that they were different. Which I can understand considering how for example I love the DK Country soundtrack, and still find parts of it to be much better in DK Land.
C64 conversions/interpretations of game soundtracks are usually very interesting I think. I would love to hear what someone like Jeroen Tel would have done with Mega Man II.
Nothing wrong with more versions of something good, is there?

Post by **grinvader** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:43 pm

Johan_H wrote:Nothing wrong with more versions of something good, is there?

Except they mostly suck.

And turning something good into something bad is pretty wrong by many standards.

alyxx · Post by **alyxx** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:00 pm

grinvader wrote:
Johan_H wrote:Nothing wrong with more versions of something good, is there?
Except they mostly suck.

And turning something good into something bad is pretty wrong by many standards.

I have heard many covers that surpass the original in many aspects, and many remixes I've heard I prefer over the original version.

So I'll have to disagree that they mostly suck and I love to hear more versions of a theme. Especially the Megaman II music, it can be done in so many styles and variations that there is always room for another remix.

Johan_H · Post by **Johan_H** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:24 pm

grinvader wrote:Except they mostly suck.

And turning something good into something bad is pretty wrong by many standards.

Ignore if you don't like? It's not like the originals are going anywhere.

alyxx · Post by **alyxx** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:48 am

But anyway, we got a bit sidetracked.

Has anyone ever played Arkista's Ring?

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:57 am

I've heard of it. I don't think I've ever actually played it, though.

...

Did I plug Metal Storm yet? Yes? Crap.

Ummm....

StarTropics and Zoda's Revenge?

...

You'd think I'd be able to find more titles.

Ah, there we go... Burai Fighter. Another scrolling shooter.

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:41 am

Johan_H wrote:
grinvader wrote:Except they mostly suck.

And turning something good into something bad is pretty wrong by many standards.
Ignore if you don't like? It's not like the originals are going anywhere.

stop pushing it since he said he didn't like it?

also:
madonna - american pie

case closed

Post by **grinvader** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:36 am

Johan_H wrote:
grinvader wrote:Except they mostly suck.

And turning something good into something bad is pretty wrong by many standards.
Ignore if you don't like? It's not like the originals are going anywhere.

Exactly.

But you're asking what would be wrong with making bullshit out of the originals, and that's the answer.

alyxx · Post by **alyxx** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:58 am

grinvader wrote:
Johan_H wrote:
grinvader wrote:Except they mostly suck.

And turning something good into something bad is pretty wrong by many standards.
Ignore if you don't like? It's not like the originals are going anywhere.
Exactly.

But you're asking what would be wrong with making bullshit out of the originals, and that's the answer.

Why don't you judge each remix or cover by itself rather than having so much prejudice against remixes?

stop pushing it since he said he didn't like it?

also:
madonna - american pie

Like the music world centers around Madonna? And I thought it was a decent cover at the least.

Rashidi · Post by **Rashidi** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:11 pm

just my own subjective opinion:

there're some music that is remixes friendly (yes, Megaman 2 music were notabily in this category)
but most of 'em were not.
chronocross musics was in this category, i notice my on tendency to hate the remix from it.

alyxx · Post by **alyxx** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:46 pm

Well, I feel we are constantly getting off topic here...

But anyway, more rare NES games, please. I want to try them.

Post by **grinvader** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:38 pm

alyxx wrote:Well, I feel we are constantly getting off topic here...

That's a common trend around these premises. Nothing to worry about.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:44 pm

grinvader wrote:
alyxx wrote:Well, I feel we are constantly getting off topic here...
WELCOME TO THE ZSNES BOARD

Fixed