I find it surprising that Nintendo hasn't tried to do anything to stop these people. They even went so far to make a portable NES. They're being sold right out of California too.
I can't imagine that being too comfy to play with, what with the huge cartridge and all.
Anyone seen these before? Anyone know how well they actually work? Any idea who is manufacturing these?
According to the description, some of them seem to work with all games, despite co-processors, region lockout, NTSC/PAL, and just about everything else.
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I find it surprising that Nintendo hasn't tried to do anything to stop these people. They even went so far to make a portable NES. They're being sold right out of California too.
I can't imagine that being too comfy to play with, what with the huge cartridge and all.
Anyone seen these before? Anyone know how well they actually work? Any idea who is manufacturing these?
According to the description, some of them seem to work with all games, despite co-processors, region lockout, NTSC/PAL, and just about everything else.
"oh noes...it's the clonez!!"
Noooooo....no that's just wrong. Portables are nice and all but not when you have to actually plug your huge ass Nes catridge into it...Plus it's a friggin clone system which imo are meh...Nothing wrong with having old systems and actual catridges (heck, I even have the same "Nintendo" Tetris version showed in the pic) but that's just overdoing it...
If you're gonna use a clone...Might as well use an NES emulator on your DS or whatever portable device at this point. Better to encourage emulators than the evil clonez.
edit: "NesDS" for ahem DS plays extremely well (no input lag I noticed too) and works with a majority of games/mappers.
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That's kind of neat, but yeah that does look painful to play. One of these days they should make a portable that could actually dump the games into some kind of internal flash memory. Thus kill the need to keep a huge cart connected to it. I'd rather play nes games on my DS lite with my R4 then buy that.
powerspike wrote:That's kind of neat, but yeah that does look painful to play. One of these days they should make a portable that could actually dump the games into some kind of internal flash memory. Thus kill the need to keep a huge cart connected to it. I'd rather play nes games on my DS lite with my R4 then buy that.
Remember, NES games aren't that easy. Almost all of them contain some form of bank-switching hardware, and there's several different implementations to deal with. Add to that that the NES has TWO cartridge busses...
You need a LOT more than a simple flash cartridge to do anything useful with the NES. That's part of why the PowerPak costs $135 WITHOUT any flash RAM.
powerspike wrote:That's kind of neat, but yeah that does look painful to play. One of these days they should make a portable that could actually dump the games into some kind of internal flash memory. Thus kill the need to keep a huge cart connected to it. I'd rather play nes games on my DS lite with my R4 then buy that.
Remember, NES games aren't that easy. Almost all of them contain some form of bank-switching hardware, and there's several different implementations to deal with. Add to that that the NES has TWO cartridge busses...
You need a LOT more than a simple flash cartridge to do anything useful with the NES.
indeed, The EVIL MAPPERz.
but that pic sparks crazy ideas:
somehow (S)NES cartridge feeder connected to Adapter, Adapter to usb..
wrote (S)Nes emu that interact with that usb adapter...
Gil_Hamilton wrote:
You need a LOT more than a simple flash cartridge to do anything useful with the NES. That's part of why the PowerPak costs $135 WITHOUT any flash RAM.
There goes my wishful thinking again. True the PowerPak is really expensive. Maybe if I come back in 10 years they'll have a cheap way of creating something like that. : /
Nach wrote:So, thoughts on the SNES clones? Anyone know which is the best? Care to explain why?
I couldn't tell you from looking at pictures, but I could always run some hardware tests on them if I had one. Though I don't know why you'd want me to, other than out of sheer curiosity.
I'd be frankly interested in one of those, however, I've
never had a good relationship with that dreaded PSX
D-pad, most unfortunately.
Albeit not 100% sure, I seem to remember Nintendo
having patents and rights and whatnot on anything
closely resembling their control pads. My guess is that's
why they went for Sony's D-pad instead of the Nintendo
one.
doktor_kris wrote:I'd be frankly interested in one of those, however, I've
never had a good relationship with that dreaded PSX
D-pad, most unfortunately.
Albeit not 100% sure, I seem to remember Nintendo
having patents and rights and whatnot on anything
closely resembling their control pads. My guess is that's
why they went for Sony's D-pad instead of the Nintendo
one.
Nintendo's patents expired a LONG time ago.
They went with the PS-style d-pad for either the LCF(Look-cool factor) or the confusion potential(it IS a pirate system, after all).
Even Nintendo doesn't design d-pads based on ease of use anymore, as anyone that's tried to use a DSLite, GBA, or GC d-pad can tell you.
Nach wrote:So, thoughts on the SNES clones? Anyone know which is the best? Care to explain why?
I haven't tried any myself, but I have heard that SNES clones work better than NES clones. From what I have read, it seems that all games work except for Super Mario RPG. You only have to go back to the Generation NEX debacle to know how incomplete NES clones still are.
Nach wrote:So, thoughts on the SNES clones? Anyone know which is the best? Care to explain why?
I haven't tried any myself, but I have heard that SNES clones work better than NES clones. From what I have read, it seems that all games work except for Super Mario RPG. You only have to go back to the Generation NEX debacle to know how incomplete NES clones still are.
Wel, NES clones essentially stopped once they got one that was a single chip.
Sadly, the existing single-chip solution is LESS accurate than the older multi-chip designs were.
The NEX was only a big fuss because they were initially representing it as a new famiclone design with greater accuracy than the one-chip solution everyone else was using... and then they shut up about it and started being REALLY vague. And then it WAS the same old one-chip solution.
Gil_Hamilton wrote:Even Nintendo doesn't design d-pads based on ease of use anymore, as anyone that's tried to use a DSLite, GBA, or GC d-pad can tell you.
Complete matter of personal taste. To me, all of those pads felt good, and the original GBA one was fantastic. I find one on the Wii's Classic controller great as well, and the Wiimote's dpad when used in the horizontal position may just be the best one I've ever used.
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Gil_Hamilton wrote:Even Nintendo doesn't design d-pads based on ease of use anymore, as anyone that's tried to use a DSLite, GBA, or GC d-pad can tell you.
Complete matter of personal taste. To me, all of those pads felt good, and the original GBA one was fantastic. I find one on the Wii's Classic controller great as well, and the Wiimote's dpad when used in the horizontal position may just be the best one I've ever used.
The GBA and GC ones both caused me physical discomfort, as well as being pretty inaccurate.
And the DSLite one chews on my thumb somethin' fierce, in addition to being all but unable to register a diagonal.
And yet, Is tick with the standard GBA because the SP was just entirely too tiny(to say nothing of the incredibly bad light they used).
I can't remember any time I ever fucked up anything in any game ever with that wonderful accurate dpad. ;D My only possible complaint would be that it's positioned kinda out of the way (like the Dual Shock's main analogue sticks).
You guys have hueg thumbs or something?
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the dpad itself is identical, but the way it's put in the controller isn't. The GC dpad is stuck in a little indentation that basically fucks it in the ass.
To use curse words in a completely inappropriate and confusing manner.
I.S.T. wrote:the dpad itself is identical, but the way it's put in the controller isn't. The GC dpad is stuck in a little indentation that basically fucks it in the ass.
To use curse words in a completely inappropriate and confusing manner.
I dunno, the 'Cube pad is shaped in such a way that it'd probably work great for assfuckery...
