Final Fantasy III

Mega Blaster Holy Metal · Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:34 pm

hm... sorry i Don't know if this has already been reported but in FFIII there's a strange thing that happens to me, when they're fleeing form the castle and terra uses magic the other two begin to talk and their heads fall in the menu, i dunno if this is supposed to happen, but its really weird

NSRT v3.3 - Nach's SNES ROM Tools

---------------------Internal ROM Info----------------------
File: Final Fantasy III.smc
Name: FINAL FANTASY 3 Company: Square
Header: SWC Bank: HiROM
Interleaved: No SRAM: 64 Kb
Type: Normal + Batt ROM: 24 Mb
Country: USA Video: NTSC
ROM Speed: 120ns (FastROM) Revision: 1.1
Checksum: Good 0x8A60 CRC32: C0FA0464
MD5: 544311E104805E926083ACF29EC664DA
--------------------------Database--------------------------
Name: Final Fantasy III
Country: USA Revision: 1.1
Port 1: Gamepad Port 2: Gamepad
Genre 1: RPG Genre 2: Turn Based

well i can't see anything wrong, and im using the last WIP

Post by **Agozer** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:38 pm

A known issue.

Mega Blaster Holy Metal · Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:55 pm

well, yes? what should i do?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:08 pm

Wait... like everyone else for bug fixes.

Mega Blaster Holy Metal · Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:46 pm

... my beards is growing

Stifu · Post by **Stifu** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:59 pm

Mega Blaster Holy Metal wrote:... my beards is growing

... It's only been one day. Better not wait for the bug to be fixed before considering shaving.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:04 pm

Mega Blaster Holy Metal wrote:... my beards is growing

This post needs an award.

Mega Blaster Holy Metal · Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:23 pm

sorry i thoug it would be like
"hey this is wrong"
"oh yeah do this this and this and its fixed"
"ah now it works!"
"thank you come again"

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:19 am

Mega Blaster Holy Metal wrote:sorry i thoug it would be like
"hey this is wrong"
"oh yeah do this this and this and its fixed"
"ah now it works!"
"thank you come again"

Sometimes, it is more like:
"hey, we already know"
"if it were that simple, why don't you fix it yourself"
"it's not that obvious to fix"

Mega Blaster Holy Metal · Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:30 pm

ok ok i mean... i thought it was already solved

anyway thank you

VashTSPD · Post by **VashTSPD** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:35 pm

I just noticed the same problem. and is anyone else having a problem with the Blitz attack? or am I just stupid and don't understand how it works. it doesn't give me any prompts that I can see, and the one time I got it to work I just mashed l,r,l,a and it worked, but that was when he was the only party member, now I can't mash because I'm selecting someone else's attact.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:39 pm

VashTSPD wrote:I just noticed the same problem. and is anyone else having a problem with the Blitz attack? or am I just stupid and don't understand how it works. it doesn't give me any prompts that I can see, and the one time I got it to work I just mashed l,r,l,a and it worked, but that was when he was the only party member, now I can't mash because I'm selecting someone else's attact.

You don't know how it works. I have never had problems inputing blitz, and I play on a Keyboard. Repeat the fight in which Sabin joins you and look closer to the instructions.

Or read a FAQ.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:49 pm

Joe Camacho wrote:You don't know how it works. I have never had problems inputing blitz, and I play on a Keyboard. Repeat the fight in which Sabin joins you and look closer to the instructions.

Or read a FAQ.

The problem with FF3/6 stupidity... this resembles the "intro bug" reports, except with more headbanging.

VashTSPD wrote:I just noticed the same problem. and is anyone else having a problem with the Blitz attack? or am I just stupid and don't understand how it works. it doesn't give me any prompts that I can see, and the one time I got it to work I just mashed l,r,l,a and it worked, but that was when he was the only party member, now I can't mash because I'm selecting someone else's attact.

When you select the Blitz command, it accepts some controller input (B to cancel input/blitz, and A to process the all the input you entered). This requires NO mashing of the keys. You simply need to learn how the command operates, seriously. Also note, that when you are entering a blitz, the battle gauge (if enabled) will be stopped.

anthiena · Post by **anthiena** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:59 pm

Well, I've noticed it too.... I just thought it was weird Japanese humor. I also notice that the one I have flickers kind of bad on the world map. I got the Japanese ROM from Neurologic and the translation hack from RPGOne. (Just google it-you will find it) I suppose that's what I get for using hacks....

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:22 pm

Use one of the later ZSNES WIPs to resolve the flickering. ZSNES 1.42 used a hack, which has been removed since. Get a WIP at http://zsnes.ipherswipsite.com

jsnake · Post by **jsnake** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:35 am

I don't want to start a new thread for this in fear that I'll get responses like 'RTFM'. But, has that weird problem with the battle menu's been fixed in the latest WIPs? Y'know, the bug that cuts off half of the battle commands sometimes. I haven't gotten to the point where it used to happen for me (Vargas Battle), so I can't test myself.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:42 am

jsnake wrote:I don't want to start a new thread for this in fear that I'll get responses like 'RTFM'. But, has that weird problem with the battle menu's been fixed in the latest WIPs? Y'know, the bug that cuts off half of the battle commands sometimes. I haven't gotten to the point where it used to happen for me (Vargas Battle), so I can't test myself.

That's RTO (Range Time Over). From what I recall in older threads, it is either not implemented, or implemented incorrectly.

jsnake · Post by **jsnake** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:54 am

Deathlike2 wrote:
jsnake wrote:I don't want to start a new thread for this in fear that I'll get responses like 'RTFM'. But, has that weird problem with the battle menu's been fixed in the latest WIPs? Y'know, the bug that cuts off half of the battle commands sometimes. I haven't gotten to the point where it used to happen for me (Vargas Battle), so I can't test myself.
That's RTO (Range Time Over). From what I recall in older threads, it is either not implemented, or implemented incorrectly.

So, basically... I have to wait?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:54 am

jsnake wrote:So, basically... I have to wait?

Yes.

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:12 pm

Or use an emulator that has it implemented correctly.

Can't remember if bsnes does that...

Post by **Nach** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:13 pm

creaothceann wrote:Or use an emulator that has it implemented correctly.

Can't remember if bsnes does that...

anomie figured out RTO and added it to Snes9x immediatly. bsnes implemented it based off of anomie's notes I believe.
Super Sleuth probably has it done too. I'm not so sure about SNEeSe, I know SNEeSe is a bit lacking in it's video department. ZSNES I think has part of it implemented, but clearly not enough. I think pagefault said he didn't implement part of it because it would break our method of C4 video transfering, but since then we fixed our C4 code to transfer the video data properly so it shouldn't be a problem to implement now.

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:17 pm

I looked it up again - bsnes v0.18 doesn't calculate RTO flags on frameskipped frames.

Nach:
Thanks for the info.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:34 pm

It does if you compile with #define FAVOR_ACCURACY. It does not if you compile with #define FAVOR_SPEED.

It still performs RTO regardless on frames that are actually drawn. The only known ROM we know of that even reads the RTO registers is the SNES Test Program Electronics Test. And the difference in speed is ~33%. I figure, if you have to use frameskipping, then you obviously have speed problems. And frameskipping provides virtually no benefit if you still have to calculate RTO status flags every frame.

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:48 am

This guy makes me laugh, this has been a glitch since the dawn of time. And when is your beard not growing. I've done far worse though, so don't take this as a personal insult or anything.