Just one simple request...

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:18 am

Zsnes can't deal with being swtched out of it's regular mode and into its menu mode more than about 20 or so times before complety messing up the graphics. (such as to save state or adjust settings). You can go ahead and bitch about improper bug reports or whatever bullshit you've come up with to avoid these issues, but the fact is that I have to restart my X-server every so often to use your emulator. Please fix this problem. I am using Mandriva 2006 with X-11xorg-x11-server-6.9.0 and
zsnes-1.42

Thanks,
Ben

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:37 am

If it's "simple" then why don't you fix it yourself?

Que · Post by **Que** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:11 am

herodotus wrote:Zsnes can't deal with being swtched out of it's regular mode and into its menu mode more than about 20 or so times before complety messing up the graphics. (such as to save state or adjust settings). You can go ahead and bitch about improper bug reports or whatever bullshit you've come up with to avoid these issues, but the fact is that I have to restart my X-server every so often to use your emulator. Please fix this problem. I am using Mandriva 2006 with X-11xorg-x11-server-6.9.0 and
zsnes-1.42

Thanks,
Ben

Your problems have been highlighted in bold for your viewing pleasure. You can find the answers yourself by reading the forums.

snkcube wrote:If it's "simple" then why don't you fix it yourself?

Where did he say it was simple? O.o I thought he just bitched for a paragraph without reading anything else on the forums... w/e.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:56 am

herodotus wrote:Zsnes can't deal with being swtched out of it's regular mode and into its menu mode more than about 20 or so times before complety messing up the graphics. (such as to save state or adjust settings). You can go ahead and bitch about improper bug reports or whatever bullshit you've come up with to avoid these issues, but the fact is that I have to restart my X-server every so often to use your emulator. Please fix this problem. I am using Mandriva 2006 with X-11xorg-x11-server-6.9.0 and
zsnes-1.42

Thanks,
Ben

It's nice when these issues come up and yet not enough information is given such as the video card that is in use. The only thing that could cause this is probably stack corruption. Try compiling from SVN and see if your issue is solved.

http://board.zsnes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7371

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:21 pm

it's interesting when the bug reporting process is imagined as a way for the developers to ignore problems.

screw the fact that all the requested information is vital to knowing where to look for the bug, it's cause you guys just don't really want to fix anything. apparently. or so he thinks.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:02 pm

sweener2001 wrote:it's interesting when the bug reporting process is imagined as a way for the developers to ignore problems.

screw the fact that all the requested information is vital to knowing where to look for the bug, it's cause you guys just don't really want to fix anything. apparently. or so he thinks.

It is hilarious, if anything.

I mean, developers have magic powers to pull the jedi mind trick and/or somehow can create a clone of the original poster's system. I mean, there are no bugs after all!

CyberBotX · Post by **CyberBotX** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:20 am

I could've told you that there's no bugs in ZSNES. That's like saying Windows has no bugs!

In all seriousness, I've never tried to do what the original poster did, but it doesn't seem like it would be possible unless, like it's been said before, the video card they have is crap. And the fact is, as stable as *nix is, when you use X with it, it's not nearly as stable anymore. Not saying it's as unstable as Windows is, but *nix as a whole can still crash. It's not crash proof.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:09 am

Que wrote:
snkcube wrote:If it's "simple" then why don't you fix it yourself?
Where did he say it was simple? O.o I thought he just bitched for a paragraph without reading anything else on the forums... w/e.

It's on the title of the thread. Oh well, it doesn't matter anymore.

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:12 pm

I apologize for the profanity in my post and for being so demanding. It was inappropriate - I was just frustrated. If it's relevant anymore, the video card is a matrox millenium G200, and kernel is kernel-2.6.12. Anyways, I'lll look into filing a proper report, thanks for replying at all.

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:14 am

herodotus wrote:Zsnes can't deal with being swtched out of it's regular mode and into its menu mode more than about 20 or so times before complety messing up the graphics. (such as to save state or adjust settings). You can go ahead and bitch about improper bug reports or whatever bullshit you've come up with to avoid these issues, but the fact is that I have to restart my X-server every so often to use your emulator. Please fix this problem. I am using Mandriva 2006 with X-11xorg-x11-server-6.9.0 and
zsnes-1.42

Thanks,
Ben

Your problems have been highlighted in bold for your viewing pleasure. You can find the answers yourself by reading the forums.
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....I did read the forums, and I see now that my problems probably come from the MMX bug in 1.42. Thanks for being nice about it, my original post didn't deserve such consideration.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:28 am

herodotus wrote:
herodotus wrote:Zsnes can't deal with being swtched out of it's regular mode and into its menu mode more than about 20 or so times before complety messing up the graphics. (such as to save state or adjust settings). You can go ahead and bitch about improper bug reports or whatever bullshit you've come up with to avoid these issues, but the fact is that I have to restart my X-server every so often to use your emulator. Please fix this problem. I am using Mandriva 2006 with X-11xorg-x11-server-6.9.0 and
zsnes-1.42

Thanks,
Ben
Your problems have been highlighted in bold for your viewing pleasure. You can find the answers yourself by reading the forums.
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....I did read the forums, and I see now that my problems probably come from the MMX bug in 1.42. Thanks for being nice about it, my original post didn't deserve such consideration.

MMX bug? I'm not aware of an MMX bug.

Post by **Nach** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:21 am

CyberBotX wrote:I could've told you that there's no bugs in ZSNES. That's like saying Windows has no bugs!

On the positive side, the bug count in ZSNES is shrinking rapidly.

jsnake · Post by **jsnake** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:55 am

CyberBotX wrote:I could've told you that there's no bugs in ZSNES. That's like saying Windows has no bugs!

Comparing ZSNES to Windows? You don't have to be so mean. D:

Post by **Nach** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:17 am

jsnake wrote:
CyberBotX wrote:I could've told you that there's no bugs in ZSNES. That's like saying Windows has no bugs!
Comparing ZSNES to Windows? You don't have to be so mean. D:

It's valid in some ways. There is no single person who knows all of ZSNES or Windows.

jsnake · Post by **jsnake** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:21 am

Nach wrote:
jsnake wrote:
CyberBotX wrote:I could've told you that there's no bugs in ZSNES. That's like saying Windows has no bugs! :D
Comparing ZSNES to Windows? You don't have to be so mean. D:
It's valid in some ways. There is no single person who knows all of ZSNES or Windows.

I know. I just wanted an excuse to take a jab at Windows. :P

CyberBotX · Post by **CyberBotX** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:12 am

jsnake wrote:
Nach wrote:
jsnake wrote:
CyberBotX wrote:I could've told you that there's no bugs in ZSNES. That's like saying Windows has no bugs!
Comparing ZSNES to Windows? You don't have to be so mean. D:
It's valid in some ways. There is no single person who knows all of ZSNES or Windows.
I know. I just wanted an excuse to take a jab at Windows.

(Aren't massive nested quotes just so fun?! </sarcasm>)

Yeah, so I was mean. But I meant it more as a jab at Windows than at ZSNES. While ZSNES is buggy (since it's still obviously a work in progress), it's probably less buggy than Windows is.

On another note, since MMX was mentioned, are you guys even planning on just making ZSNES rely on MMX support and remove the option to disable it? Is there anything in ZSNES that works better without it, or does it run into more problems without MMX support?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:20 am

CyberBotX wrote:
jsnake wrote:
Nach wrote:
jsnake wrote:
CyberBotX wrote:I could've told you that there's no bugs in ZSNES. That's like saying Windows has no bugs!
Comparing ZSNES to Windows? You don't have to be so mean. D:
It's valid in some ways. There is no single person who knows all of ZSNES or Windows.
I know. I just wanted an excuse to take a jab at Windows.
(Aren't massive nested quotes just so fun?! </sarcasm>)

Yeah, so I was mean. But I meant it more as a jab at Windows than at ZSNES. While ZSNES is buggy (since it's still obviously a work in progress), it's probably less buggy than Windows is.

On another note, since MMX was mentioned, are you guys even planning on just making ZSNES rely on MMX support and remove the option to disable it? Is there anything in ZSNES that works better without it, or does it run into more problems without MMX support?

Mmm.. could you please not poke at Windows so much? All the good stuff started from DOS

I'm not sure if that option will ever be removed. To be honest, I think it should be autodetected via CPUID, but I digress..

Lots of things require MMX, including the New Graphics Engine, some scanline options, special sound filters (IIRC, Gaussian has an MMX accelerated version including the non-MMX version), and certainly the video filters.

Those non-MMX options will still exist for those that don't have the same resources we do nowadays (but don't complain about performance... it's kinda hard to get much from anything pre-MMX... or even a 486).

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Sat May 19, 2007 5:35 pm

Well, it's been a while, but disabling MMX didn't actually fix my problem. As far as the post by the individual who wasn't aware of any MMX bugs in the version mentioned, all I have to say is that I remember encountering a thread on the forums about mandriva and MMX and was pretty sure at the time that it was related to my problem. Given the response I got about reading the forums, it seemed right on (yah, should have the link for you, sorry).

and now, we've surely moved on to new versions and I probably have those versions as part of the latest mandriva - just haven't played snes in a while.

Somehow I managed to start a conversation about bug counts and even got zsnes compared to windows....I'm sure the bug count can't be all that bad, I've really only ever had this one issue to gripe about, and overall think zsnes is great

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Just one simple request...

Just one simple request...

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apologies...more information.

ahhh....

Re: ahhh....

err....not MMX in my case