HD-DVD and Blu-Ray AACS DRM Cracked

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:31 am

http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/27/aacs ... ddvd-tool/

Impossible? Nope.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:36 am

I don't even know what AACS is.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:45 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_A ... ent_System

PHoNyMiKe · Post by **PHoNyMiKe** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:54 am

it's what prevents you from "copy and pasting" a blu-ray or hd dvd onto your hard drive. it won't be around for long, so don't worry about it

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:33 am

phOnYmIkE wrote:it's what prevents you from "copy and pasting" a blu-ray or hd dvd onto your hard drive. it won't be around for long, so don't worry about it

Awesome.

Firon · Post by **Firon** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:21 am

In a nutshell, it's the successor to CSS, that crap on DVDs that also tried to prevent you from copying DVDs.

This is good news though, it took way less time for this than it took for the first possibility to rip DVDs.

edit: fixed stupid

PHoNyMiKe · Post by **PHoNyMiKe** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:25 am

actually 'that crap' on dvds is called CSS, which is why jon's program could DeCSS a dvd much like DeJap likes to remove 'that japanese crap' from snes roms.

Firon · Post by **Firon** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:29 am

Yeah, my bad. Had a brain fart. >_>

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:49 am

Bah, copyright protection on DVDs is copied right along with the rest of it by making an image and soon even programs like Clone CD/DVD will be able to do so for Blu-Ray and HDDVD as well.

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:19 pm

Cyrus wrote:Bah, copyright protection on DVDs is copied right along with the rest of it by making an image and soon even programs like Clone CD/DVD will be able to do so for Blu-Ray and HDDVD as well.

But now we can play them in any OS we want.

bobthebuilder · Post by **bobthebuilder** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:36 am

snkcube wrote:http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/27/aacs ... ddvd-tool/

Impossible? Nope.

Cracked?! That doesn't seem to be the case here. The key is being obtained from the ram, this is actually a weakness of the software player not AACS. I wouldn't be surprised to see updates to several players that "fix" this security risk.

Oskar_Hanberg · Post by **Oskar_Hanberg** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:06 pm

Like anyone thought it would be impossible.. As long as you can hear or see something you can also copy it. But if they wanna waste billions of money on something that has a fancy name and looks advanced its their problem. Best thing ever was that "copy protection" on music cd's you could "crack" with a regular pen. talk about pwn!

AntoineWG · Post by **AntoineWG** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:59 am

It's been said before and I'll say it again. There is no DRM that is uncrackable.

Que · Post by **Que** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:08 am

Until the day where our minds are digital as well, analogue copying options will always exist. You tube is a prime example that masses don't care about quality either, so don't even try to debate that side of it. Piracy will never die.

AntoineWG · Post by **AntoineWG** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:13 am

Que wrote:Until the day where our minds are digital as well, analogue copying options will always exist. You tube is a prime example that masses don't care about quality either, so don't even try to debate that side of it. Piracy will never die.

Analog copy protection is just as easy to bypass, if not easier. For about $30 on ebay, you can buy a "video stabilizer" that filters out the Macrovision copy protection on most DVD players, VHS tapes and some broadcast shows.

Que · Post by **Que** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:22 am

AntoineWG wrote:
Que wrote:Until the day where our minds are digital as well, analogue copying options will always exist. You tube is a prime example that masses don't care about quality either, so don't even try to debate that side of it. Piracy will never die.
Analog copy protection is just as easy to bypass, if not easier. For about $30 on ebay, you can buy a "video stabilizer" that filters out the Macrovision copy protection on most DVD players, VHS tapes and some broadcast shows.

What I'm trying to say is that no matter what method they try to use, it still has to be conveyed to us humans in an analogue manner, which is ALWAYS copyable. Now unless we humans become our own inventions, computers; we will always be able to copy anything no matter the copy protection, with enough work of course.

AntoineWG · Post by **AntoineWG** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:11 am

I completely misread your last post. I thought you said "analog copy protections", not "analog copy options". You're right, though. Analog is always a possibility, but we may have to lose at least some quality, whether perceptable or not, to do it.

Oskar_Hanberg · Post by **Oskar_Hanberg** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:36 am

reduced quality is still better than an increased lack of money. the only TRUE "copy protection" they could use if to start selling the stuff at a price that doesn't make people point and laugh and say "yeah right <insert price> for that! Piratebay here I come"

paulguy · Post by **paulguy** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:19 pm

Actually, for DVI and HDMI, depending on your display, stays digital from the original media up to where it's crapped out on the screen by your display. Digital from start to finish. Have they cracked HDCP, yet? I'm sure they have...

Que · Post by **Que** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:03 am

paulguy wrote:Actually, for DVI and HDMI, depending on your display, stays digital from the original media up to where it's crapped out on the screen by your display. Digital from start to finish. Have they cracked HDCP, yet? I'm sure they have...

YES! exactly, but the light waves coming from the monitor aren't

screener anyone?

Firon · Post by **Firon** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:53 am

HDCP can theoretically be broken, but no one has bothered. So far, people use passthrough devices. In essence, a device acts like an HDCP-compliant display, then strips the HDCP crap and sends the digital signal along to your TV/monitor/whatever.

Neo Kaiser · Post by **Neo Kaiser** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:30 am

This is old. BTW maybe it will be possible to copy HD-DVD movies into Blu-Ray. *EDIT* wait I confused this with the news on how Blu-Ray copy protection was cracked.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:26 am

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070115-8622.html

Looks like the first pirated HD DVD movie is now available to download on BitTorrent. Have fun downloading 19.6 GB.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:09 pm

snkcube wrote:Have fun downloading 19.6 GB.

Especially when you're still using FAT32 on that hard drive.

Provided the movie/ISO is 19.6GB total, and not pre-split into parts.

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:29 pm

adventure_of_link wrote:
snkcube wrote:Have fun downloading 19.6 GB.
Especially when you're still using FAT32 on that hard drive.

Provided the movie/ISO is 19.6GB total, and not pre-split into parts.

Indeed, having a limit of under 4GBs is a pain in the ass for DVD images. The first time I made an image larger than that in a FAT32 system and it automatically split itself I had no idea what the hell was going on.

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