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Gil_Hamilton wrote:
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Panzer88 wrote:what about Emperor: Battle for Dune aka Dune III, it was pretty solid right?
I haven't played that one yet actually :P

It's pretty pathetic, but when I originally bought some games, my PC couldn't handle them, so I just left them in my CD box, and haven't looked at them since getting new PCs. I do plan to look at it one of these days though.
I've got a lot of those games.

Grabbed them when they hit the bargin bin because while I was stuck with a TNT in a GeForce 2 minimum era, SOMEDAY I'd have a good card...
I did some of that too. My neighbor got Dune II way back when it came out, and I borrowed it, and later the same with C&C and RA. I later on bought them when it was like the whole set to that point for $20. Only game I bought the day it came out was Tiberian Sun, man it took like 6 minutes to load a level on my PC back then, now it loads instantly.

I bought Total Anihillation when I noticed the whole set for $5 each, too. Gotta love the bargain bin.
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imagine the original RA on a 486 SX
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Panzer88 wrote: as for the storyline, RA2's storyline was already f-ed to all hell. I'd just as soon let them come up with something new. C&C was already their sci-fi storyline, I think Red Alert should have stayed a bit more serious like the first game. I mean they did it because they wanted to do a sort of alternate WWII anyways.
The Red Alert storyline IS the C&C story line.

Don't forget all the time travel involved and how the story line was edited.
I'm pretty sure they are independent universes. Red Alert's plot is based on the concept of Einstein creating a time machine and sending a hitman back in time to kill off Hitler, there was no world war II but Stalin started a war against the West later on. The allies defeat Stalin but another war begins in the modern day only somehow Einstein is still alive.

Command & Conquer takes place in the age of terrorism, the substance Tiberium lands on earth in Africa and starts spreading. There is a global peacekeeping army known as the GDI (Global Defense Initiative) and the largest threat to them is the underground group and terrorist cell The Brotherhood of Nod, led by Kane. The war progresses on into the future where Tiberium has devastated the planet in a lot of ways and much of the population is mutated.

How are the two related?
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RA takes place before C&C. The bald guy in the first soviet cut scene? thats Kane.

the only alternate time line is events that lead up to RA2.
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Panzer88 wrote:
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Panzer88 wrote: as for the storyline, RA2's storyline was already f-ed to all hell. I'd just as soon let them come up with something new. C&C was already their sci-fi storyline, I think Red Alert should have stayed a bit more serious like the first game. I mean they did it because they wanted to do a sort of alternate WWII anyways.
The Red Alert storyline IS the C&C story line.

Don't forget all the time travel involved and how the story line was edited.
I'm pretty sure they are independent universes. Red Alert's plot is based on the concept of Einstein creating a time machine and sending a hitman back in time to kill off Hitler, there was no world war II but Stalin started a war against the West later on. The allies defeat Stalin but another war begins in the modern day only somehow Einstein is still alive.

Command & Conquer takes place in the age of terrorism, the substance Tiberium lands on earth in Africa and starts spreading. There is a global peacekeeping army known as the GDI (Global Defense Initiative) and the largest threat to them is the underground group and terrorist cell The Brotherhood of Nod, led by Kane. The war progresses on into the future where Tiberium has devastated the planet in a lot of ways and much of the population is mutated.

How are the two related?
If you don't see how they're related, then you never watched the videos. Heck, the ending with the Soviets specifically mentions the Brotherhood of Nod, and has Kane there the whole time.

Command & Conquer is the result of the Soviets winning Red Alert, and Red Alert 2 is the results of the Allies winning it. See all the places where Kane fits in.

Then notice how Kane says he's seen the future (time travel), and how it's hinted more than once that he's the same Kane in the bible. Then notice in Yuri's revenge how a person who looks a lot like Kane was sent back in time with advanced technology.
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I can see how he CAN fit, but I see no resemblance in person or in personality of Kane and Yuri. It COULD work, but they never said "this is how it is" did they? source?

Plus if the soviets won the war how the hell did the GDI ever come along? especially in such a short time, that'd be one heck of a come back. Furthermore, regardless of who won the war, that wouldn't effect whether tiberium fell to earth, if you're right then tiberium should have come into Red Alert 2, but it didn't.

I think the theory doesn't quite work guys, I mean show me some evidence that it does.

EDIT: alright, the first Red Alert has a lot of references I must have been confused about or long since forgotten.

still it makes me wonder why they didn't mention it at all in Red Alert 2? have they abandoned this plot connection?
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Er, Kane is not Yuri.

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yeah, plus you'd think that C&C would make more mention of the soviets if they had won, it's a bit confused.

I mean the Brotherhood of Nod was supposed to be African in origin, not from Russia. not to mention that Russia is part of the GDI

EDIT: this explains a lot, from wikipedia
According to former C&C designer Adam "Ishmael" Isgreen, Command & Conquer: Tiberian Dawn follows the events of Red Alert's Allied campaign[8], while Red Alert 2 and Yuri's Revenge take place in a parallel universe created by an attempt to alter the past in "Tiberian Incursion"[9], which was known to be the working title of Westwood's cancelled sequel to Tiberian Sun: Firestorm[10]. Isgreen also implied that Nikola Tesla was responsible for attracting the attention of the Scrin through his experiments, and thus for the arrival of Tiberium on Earth[11].

When the Command & Conquer: The First Decade compilation was released in February of 2006, Electronic Arts divided the Command & Conquer series into three distinct universes, with this apparently violating the storyline connections between Red Alert and Tiberian Dawn initially established by Westwood Studios.

With the subsequent release of the title Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars in March 2007, however, Electronic Arts published a document pertaining to C&C 3's storyline in which a reference to Kane's appearance in the 1950s of Command & Conquer: Red Alert was made[12]. On July 25th of the same year, a Command & Conquer: Renegade-themed modification for the game Crysis was officially announced by Electronic Arts, which is stated to directly link the first Red Alert game to Command & Conquer: Tiberian Dawn
that's what they get for not making the second Tiberian Sun expansion -Tiberian Incursion.
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Post by franpa »

Problem? Faulty memory controller... the 2 yellow slots did not like my memory sticks but the 2 black slots did =) RMA'd the motherboard (took 4 weeks to get back) and now the yellow slots work, ill test the black slots later on =)

current problems found after RMA, network connection drops out (may be a cable issue) and one of the USB ports does not work at all... well it makes windows say the USB device has encountered a error >.>
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