2xSaI Outside Of ZSNES

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:04 pm

I've been meaning to ask if there is a program out there which applies 2xSaI (or other scaling algorithms) to a specified window or even the entire screen so it can be used outside of ZSNES?

I'd have thought someone would have made such a program a long time ago but I haven't ever heard of such a thing. Does anyone have any info on this topic?

Kajuru · Post by **Kajuru** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:36 am

That reminds me of the guy who wanted the NTSC filter affecting the whole desktop

bobthebuilder · Post by **bobthebuilder** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:23 am

Yes, there is a program that does that for images. You can use the print screen function to view a window or the desktop under the effects of a scaling algorithm. Go to the homepage of the author of the hq#x algorithms to download a prog. that can do this.

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:51 pm

bobthebuilder wrote:Go to the homepage of the author of the hq#x algorithms to download a prog. that can do this.

http://www.hiend3d.com/, I guess? There're only programs to apply hq?x to an image.

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:19 pm

Thanks for the info guys. Well... it looks like no one really did make what I'm looking for after all.

Just for fun I tested the hqnx filters on some images of pixelated 2D games and the sprites in the results are just as blocky as before. I guess that's because the sprites were the most pixelated part of the image and at that size it recognizes them as a bunch of squares to filter

Bah.

mudlord · Post by **mudlord** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:13 pm

Nitsuja's HQXxS algorithms solve this problem of sprite filtering.

As for your original question, there is now program that does what you are after. There is pixel shader versions of HQ2X and 2xSai though...

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:07 am

mudlord wrote:Nitsuja's HQXxS algorithms solve this problem of sprite filtering.

As for your original question, there is now program that does what you are after. There is pixel shader versions of HQ2X and 2xSai though...

I'll assume you meant to say no instead of now. Would you happen to know the websites for the pixel shader versions?

mudlord · Post by **mudlord** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:23 am

Yes, I meant to say "no" to the idea.

The pixel shader versions of the various scaling algorithms are here:
http://www.si-gamer.net/gulikoza/dosbox.html

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:36 am

mudlord wrote:Yes, I meant to say "no" to the idea.

The pixel shader versions of the various scaling algorithms are here:
http://www.si-gamer.net/gulikoza/dosbox.html

Thanks again. Now I'm wondering how to put any of them to use considering they seem to be in a format for DOSBox. You'll have to excuse me if anything I say is wrong/doesn't make any sense, I don't exactly have much knowledge on the subject.

bobthebuilder · Post by **bobthebuilder** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:34 am

creaothceann wrote:
bobthebuilder wrote:Go to the homepage of the author of the hq#x algorithms to download a prog. that can do this.
http://www.hiend3d.com/, I guess? There're only programs to apply hq?x to an image.

Yes, that is the program I was referring to. He can copy the contents of a window with Print Screen and scale away (Of course after he saves it first as a bmp).

blackmyst · Post by **blackmyst** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:00 pm

Kajuru wrote:That reminds me of the guy who wanted the NTSC filter affecting the whole desktop

What's worse, the only reason he wanted it was so he could adjust the colour and brightness settings in windows... and kept going on about it like a retard.

mudlord · Post by **mudlord** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:55 am

Now I'm wondering how to put any of them to use considering they seem to be in a format for DOSBox. You'll have to excuse me if anything I say is wrong/doesn't make any sense, I don't exactly have much knowledge on the subject.

It is possible to rewrite those HLSL shaders to work for any D3D application. Given though, you might need decent D3D programming skills. I have one other app that works with those shaders, if you want it

.

Although, it doesnt do what you are after. It only works on image files, just like Maxim's HQXX programs.

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:08 am

mudlord wrote:
Now I'm wondering how to put any of them to use considering they seem to be in a format for DOSBox. You'll have to excuse me if anything I say is wrong/doesn't make any sense, I don't exactly have much knowledge on the subject.
It is possible to rewrite those HLSL shaders to work for any D3D application. Given though, you might need decent D3D programming skills. I have one other app that works with those shaders, if you want it .

Although, it doesnt do what you are after. It only works on image files, just like Maxim's HQXX programs.

Oh well, thanks anyway.

Kajuru · Post by **Kajuru** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:53 am

blackmyst wrote:
Kajuru wrote:That reminds me of the guy who wanted the NTSC filter affecting the whole desktop
What's worse, the only reason he wanted it was so he could adjust the colour and brightness settings in windows... and kept going on about it like a retard.

I'm not paying any attention to new filters, but wouldn't a 2xSAI desktop require twice as big resolution? The way I understand it, a 1600x1200 2xSAI desktop would look like a smooth/blurry 800x600...what a waste of workspace and system resources.

Edit: Correction, 800x600 2xSAI would require 1600x1200.