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Issues setting up Wireless

Post by corronchilejano »

Allright, Im a total ignorant in this thing. Recently there was a certain portable computer craze in the family and now everyone has one. I bought a wireless router, a QPCOM QP-WR254G+, and thus entered the wonderfull world of people who don't know shit about it.

I'm going to explain the current configuration my ISP makes me use to connect through the ADSL modem, which is a HUAWEI mt820. I use an ethernet adaptor to connect directly.

My Ip is an asigned IP, which is 192.168.1.50, subnet mask 255.255.255.0, gatewat 192.168.1.1. DNS: 200.21.200.2, altern 200.21.200.79.

Now, can anyone help me set up this crap in order for it to work on my portable's? Here are some screens of some options:

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Post by odditude »

Do me a favor. Hook your computer back to the DSL modem directly, get yourself back on the internet, and Start -> Run the following:

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ipconfig /all > %homepath%\desktop\out.txt
Copy the contents of the file into a response post.

I have a feeling that your DSL modem is functioning as a gateway/router and providing local DHCP/NAT services. If that's the case, you'll want to disable the routing functionality of your QPCOM router (believe it or not), assign it a static IP in the subnet that's outside of the gateway's DHCP range, and hook it up to the gateway via one of the LAN ports.

QPCOM's website utterly blows, so try and find some documentation for me and look for the latest firmware for the router, too.
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Post by corronchilejano »

My windows is in spanish here, so I'll have to translate:

Configuración IP de Windows (Windows Ip configuration)

Nombre del host . . . . . . . . . : BUSTAMANTE1 (Host name)
Sufijo DNS principal . . . . . . : (Main DNS sufix)
Tipo de nodo . . . . . . . . . . : desconocido (Node type: Unknown)
Enrutamiento habilitado. . . . . .: No (Rerouting enabled: No)
Proxy WINS habilitado. . . . . : No (Proxy WINS enabled: No)

Adaptador Ethernet Conexión de área local 3 : (Ethernet adaptor Local area conection 3)

Sufijo de conexión específica DNS : (Specifix DNS connection sufix)
Descripción. . . . . . . . . . . : MSI/Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller (Description)
Dirección física. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-76-5F-17-97 (Physical address)
DHCP habilitado. . . . . . . . . : No (DHCP enabled)
Dirección IP. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.50 (IP address)
Máscara de subred . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 (Subnet Mask)
Puerta de enlace predeterminada : 192.168.1.1 (Default Gateway)
Servidores DNS . . . . . . . . . .: 200.21.200.2 (DNS Servers)
200.21.200.79

Also, this configuration makes the wireless work, but direct LAN connection doesnt:
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Post by odditude »

Yeah, those settings won't work.

Try the following:
On the router LAN page, set the following:
IP Address: 172.16.0.1
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
DHCP Client Range: 172.16.0.50-172.16.0.100

Apply changes. The page will NOT reload.

On your computer, go to network connections/ (adapter) / properties/TCP-IP properties. Write down your settings, then change the connection type to DHCP.

start->run ipconfig /renew

bring the router status page back up (172.16.0.1)
if you can, try the intarweb.

if it DOESN'T work, revert and give more screenshots from the progress.
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Post by odditude »

I'm trying to get through the simple ones first. His DSL modem has a DHCP server, and since the DHCP server on the router doesn't look like it can be selectively disabled without nuking the access point functionality as well, I was trying to eliminate that conflict first.
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Post by corronchilejano »

Odditude, you're my hero. Anyway I can learn WHY that works that way? Maybe you can refer me to a website, explain, anything?
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Post by odditude »

Erm. I'll try to explain this as best I can without getting too technical. Basically, what it boils down to is that your lovely DSL modem is actually also a router. These kinds of combo devices are referred to as "gateways." (Actually, lots of people have different names for everything, so nomenclature won't be universal everywhere. Life sucks that way sometimes, but that's what I'm going to call it here.)

Routers in general set up their own little private network ("private" meaning "having its own little IP address space that's not unique to the internet", see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network). They also set themselves up as the lord of their own little domain, acting as DHCP server (meaning they for any computers or devices that are hooked up and paying attention, the router will provide the IP address and DNS info and all that information automatically).

The issue, in your case, was you had two routers attached to each other that were both trying to lord over the same private network. Long story short, that doesn't work very well. Under normal circumstances, you'd ideally tell your wireless router "OK, stop being a router and just be a wireless access point for me." That way, you'd have no conflicts and life would be good.

Your router, unfortunately, doesn't give you that option. So, what I had you do was create a second private network INSIDE the first one that your wireless router could be happy in. This will work fine for your standard internet usage. However, you're likely to have issues with any program that wants incoming connections, due to the obnoxious complexity of the setup. This means online gaming, bittorrent, and direct file sends via IM clients are all likely to get cranky. Without actual hands-on access (or better documentation for both gateway and router), I'm not going to be able to help you with that. Actually, if your hardware is limited enough, the proper solution might be "buy better hardware."

Oh, one more thing - networking is acronym-heavy. Get in the habit of looking up what those acronyms mean, and things might start to get a little less fuzzy more quickly.

Hope this clarified things a bit!
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Post by corronchilejano »

I was actually looking for a very technical explanation if you don't mind.
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Post by funkyass »

corronchilejano wrote:I was actually looking for a very technical explanation if you don't mind.
odd's explanation is as technical as is really needed.

You bought a router without doing much research.
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Post by corronchilejano »

More accuratelly I received a router, since I got it for free by buying a TravelMate, for a most ridiculous price. When I said technical, I meant a complete explanation, with acronyms and everything, kind of like a class. Too much to ask, I know.
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