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sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:27 am

from kotaku's daily most popular stories: apparently blu-ray isn't big enough for MGS4, KoF XII is 100% hand drawn, and video games RAPE women.

seemed like a decent selection of stories. what confounds me is mgs4 not fitting on a blu-ray. some rather large games have managed to fit onto dvd-9 for 360 without too much a noticeable difference from the PC.

I.S.T. · Post by **I.S.T.** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:33 am

HOLY CRAP IS RIGHT!

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:47 am

I don't know. It sounds like Kojima isn't trying so hard to compress the data in MGS4, even though he stated so.

DancemasterGlenn · Post by **DancemasterGlenn** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:59 am

Why don't they just add a disk?

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:02 am

DancemasterGlenn wrote:Why don't they just add a disk?

I'm assuming they want things to be "convenient" and are trying to avoid using multiple discs.

I.S.T. · Post by **I.S.T.** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:04 am

snkcube wrote:I don't know. It sounds like Kojima isn't trying so hard to compress the data in MGS4, even though he stated so.

It's possible he did the traditional "Fill the disc with FMVs" thing, and didn't want to cut them down...

It's also possible that several entirely different gameplay styles/elements were in the game(Possible optional ones ala the Solid Snake Skateboarding in MGS2:S). I doubt that, however.

Neo Kaiser · Post by **Neo Kaiser** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:04 am

Maybe MGS4 is as long as 3 MG games.

casualsax3 · Post by **casualsax3** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:05 am

God that's what Street Fighter 4 should have looked like. That's gorgeous.

corronchilejano · Post by **corronchilejano** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:28 am

KOF is BEAUTIFULL, can't wait for it. MGS4... ehr.. i dunno, I didn't really like 2 or 3, it's like they're over complicating the storyline.

In other off topic news: Zelda Coalition's Forums have been closed apparently forever. The guys that found the Triforce, the unicorn statue and the Starwing have been finally nullified by two assholes. Rom hacking just took a shotgun blast on da face.

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:39 am

i honestly can't think of anything that would take up all that space. just because a game like oblivion fit on one dvd-9. the orange box could also be brought up. but then there are games like blue dragon and lost odyssey that come on multiple discs, and that's not because there's so much extra gameplay.

not knowing much about game-making makes speculation on my part hard.

I.S.T. · Post by **I.S.T.** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:51 am

corronchilejano wrote:KOF is BEAUTIFULL, can't wait for it. MGS4... ehr.. i dunno, I didn't really like 2 or 3, it's like they're over complicating the storyline.

In other off topic news: Zelda Coalition's Forums have been closed apparently forever. The guys that found the Triforce, the unicorn statue and the Starwing have been finally nullified by two assholes. Rom hacking just took a shotgun blast on da face.

Those are the people that found the Triforce and Starwing(Didn't know about the unicorn.)? Shit.

What happened?

mytmyke · Post by **mytmyke** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:17 am

They can always compress the game with 7-zip then add 7-zip support........LOL

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:57 am

I.S.T. wrote:What happened?

I'm curious too.

I.S.T. · Post by **I.S.T.** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:02 am

mytmyke wrote:They can always compress the game with 7-zip then add 7-zip support........LOL

corronchilejano · Post by **corronchilejano** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:16 pm

franpa wrote:
I.S.T. wrote:What happened?
I'm curious too.

Two bastards hacked the server due to personal anal-homosexual reasons, and they've actually done it THREE times already.
Forums are back up for the 3rd time anew, so I guess it wasn''t the end. It actually has become quite entertaining to watch.

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:01 pm

sweener2001 wrote:i honestly can't think of anything that would take up all that space. just because a game like oblivion fit on one dvd-9. the orange box could also be brought up. but then there are games like blue dragon and lost odyssey that come on multiple discs, and that's not because there's so much extra gameplay.

not knowing much about game-making makes speculation on my part hard.

IIRC, all PS3 games are on blue-ray. Xbox360 games use standard DVD.

My guess is that both languages won't fit cleanly on a single layer IE the game itself is larger than 12.5 GB with a given language.

I.S.T. · Post by **I.S.T.** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:32 am

corronchilejano wrote:
franpa wrote:
I.S.T. wrote:What happened?
I'm curious too.
Two bastards hacked the server due to personal anal-homosexual reasons, and they've actually done it THREE times already.
Forums are back up for the 3rd time anew, so I guess it wasn''t the end. It actually has become quite entertaining to watch.

Wha? What does "anal-homosexual" mean in this context?

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:05 am

I.S.T. wrote:
corronchilejano wrote:
franpa wrote:
I.S.T. wrote:What happened?
I'm curious too.
Two bastards hacked the server due to personal anal-homosexual reasons, and they've actually done it THREE times already.
Forums are back up for the 3rd time anew, so I guess it wasn''t the end. It actually has become quite entertaining to watch.
Wha? What does "anal-homosexual" mean in this context?

They're gay, but only like it up the butt, not in the mouth?

corronchilejano · Post by **corronchilejano** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:43 am

A popular term for “anal retentive personality,” a personality marked by excessive orderliness, extreme meticulousness, and often suspicion and reserve

I.S.T. · Post by **I.S.T.** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:38 am

corronchilejano wrote:
A popular term for “anal retentive personality,” a personality marked by excessive orderliness, extreme meticulousness, and often suspicion and reserve

Ah.

I fail the Internets.

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:09 am

funkyass wrote:
sweener2001 wrote:i honestly can't think of anything that would take up all that space. just because a game like oblivion fit on one dvd-9. the orange box could also be brought up. but then there are games like blue dragon and lost odyssey that come on multiple discs, and that's not because there's so much extra gameplay.

not knowing much about game-making makes speculation on my part hard.
IIRC, all PS3 games are on blue-ray. Xbox360 games use standard DVD.

My guess is that both languages won't fit cleanly on a single layer IE the game itself is larger than 12.5 GB with a given language.

but they can use a DL blu-ray disc. that's where i'm confused. gigantic games fit on DVD-9 for 360 just fine, but MGS4 is having issues with blu-ray?

he has 50 GB to play with, and he's lacking for space.

blackmyst · Post by **blackmyst** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:59 am

I'm sure it's just more hype. "OMG this game is gonna be so awesome it can't fit into 50 gig OMG!!" and then, once again, deliver nothing special.

I.S.T. · Post by **I.S.T.** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:43 pm

sweener2001 wrote:
funkyass wrote:
sweener2001 wrote:i honestly can't think of anything that would take up all that space. just because a game like oblivion fit on one dvd-9. the orange box could also be brought up. but then there are games like blue dragon and lost odyssey that come on multiple discs, and that's not because there's so much extra gameplay.

not knowing much about game-making makes speculation on my part hard.
IIRC, all PS3 games are on blue-ray. Xbox360 games use standard DVD.

My guess is that both languages won't fit cleanly on a single layer IE the game itself is larger than 12.5 GB with a given language.
but they can use a DL blu-ray disc. that's where i'm confused. gigantic games fit on DVD-9 for 360 just fine, but MGS4 is having issues with blu-ray?

he has 50 GB to play with, and he's lacking for space.

I believe right now you have to get special approval to use the DL discs(I saw a then Heavenly Sword engine programmer talking about how HS almost got the nod to become the first DL game), and DL discs are more expensive to manufacture. Konami may have gone the cheap-ass route on him.

Now, given that if the pattern the MGS games have continues, this game will have much more content than the last, with much of it being bonus mode stuff. Combine that with ultra-high quality audio and the FMVs that Japanese companies love so much, it wouldn't surprise me if they're getting awfully close to the 25 gig limit.

corronchilejano · Post by **corronchilejano** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:07 pm

Or maybe they're just dicks and included lossles audio for some reason.

I.S.T. · Post by **I.S.T.** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:12 pm

"ultra high quality audio" was meant to cover lossless.

>.>

It wouldn't be a surprise to me...