Buying a car but...

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:13 pm

is it a diesel benny?

darkbenny · Post by **darkbenny** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:24 pm

noooo it is a gas, 1.8l. Gas it currently 1.34 $/l here in Montreal, diesel is even higher

Not quick at all, but good on fuel and solid as a rock.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:19 pm

darkbenny wrote:noooo it is a gas, 1.8l. Gas it currently 1.34 $/l here in Montreal, diesel is even higher

Not quick at all, but good on fuel and solid as a rock.

Shit. Gas is like $3.89/g around California, specifically in the Bay Area. I don't think it has ever been $1.34 for close to a decade.

whicker · Post by **whicker** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:46 pm

snkcube wrote:
darkbenny wrote:noooo it is a gas, 1.8l. Gas it currently 1.34 $/l here in Montreal, diesel is even higher

Not quick at all, but good on fuel and solid as a rock.
Shit. Gas is like $3.89/g around California, specifically in the Bay Area. I don't think it has ever been $1.34 for close to a decade.

Be careful about your units of measure.

I'd rather pay $3.89 USD a US gallon (which is probably an all-time high), than $1.34 CAD / liter. Dollar equivalence helps ease the math burden.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:25 pm

whicker wrote:
snkcube wrote:
darkbenny wrote:noooo it is a gas, 1.8l. Gas it currently 1.34 $/l here in Montreal, diesel is even higher

Not quick at all, but good on fuel and solid as a rock.
Shit. Gas is like $3.89/g around California, specifically in the Bay Area. I don't think it has ever been $1.34 for close to a decade.
Be careful about your units of measure.

I'd rather pay $3.89 USD a US gallon (which is probably an all-time high), than $1.34 CAD / liter. Dollar equivalence helps ease the math burden.

Yeah.

I totally RAPED a birt that was ranting about US fuel prices and how he'd NEVER pay that much, and even provided examples of what he paid. In pounds per liter. I politeld did the conversion and pointed out he was ALREADY paying over twice what we paid, and reminded him that liters were smaller than gallons and pounds were larger than dollars.

Rashidi · Post by **Rashidi** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:02 pm

on any case, the fuel prices wil soars again and again, thanks to OPEC...
history will tell that almost all price hike was done by opec's initiatives
Easier to say than done, we should shed our dependency on fossil fuel ASAP

darkbenny · Post by **darkbenny** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:37 pm

bring on the flying electric car k thx

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:02 pm

Yeah, it's overdue.

FitzRoy · Post by **FitzRoy** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:52 pm

Let's not blame OPEC entirely for the price of oil. Our inflationary policies have a lot do with the price of commodities in general relative to dollars.

wikipedia wrote: Since currently worldwide oil sales are denominated in U.S. dollars, changes in the value of the dollar against other world currencies affect OPEC's decisions on how much oil to produce. For example, when the dollar falls relative to the other currencies, OPEC-member states receive smaller revenues in other currencies for their oil, causing substantial cuts in their purchasing power. After the introduction of the euro, pre-invasion Iraq decided it wanted to be paid for its oil in euros instead of US dollars causing OPEC to consider changing its oil exchange currency to euros, although after Iraq's invasion, the interim government reversed this policy, and the subsequent Iraq governments stuck to the US dollar.

That said, I like the Aptera. The free market will always triumph if you let it. Rising oil prices creates new demand for stuff like this, and the incentive to make money will be there to meet it. The government taking your money and giving it to corn farmers for ethanol was the socialist solution. Too bad it depends on government making the right decision, which ethanol isn't, so all it did was make you less able to afford stuff you knew was better and raise the price of corn and the price of things that eat corn. Not only that, it takes about as much energy to make ethanol as you get out of it. Government waste at its finest.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=p2Ke1VWhZJA

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:21 am

whicker wrote:
snkcube wrote:
darkbenny wrote:noooo it is a gas, 1.8l. Gas it currently 1.34 $/l here in Montreal, diesel is even higher

Not quick at all, but good on fuel and solid as a rock.
Shit. Gas is like $3.89/g around California, specifically in the Bay Area. I don't think it has ever been $1.34 for close to a decade.
Be careful about your units of measure.

I'd rather pay $3.89 USD a US gallon (which is probably an all-time high), than $1.34 CAD / liter. Dollar equivalence helps ease the math burden.

Bleh, sorry about my mistake. I'm not really the morning person. I can't believe I used the wrong unit.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:02 am

FitzRoy wrote:Let's not blame OPEC entirely for the price of oil. Our inflationary policies have a lot do with the price of commodities in general relative to dollars.

And don't forget that someone was asleep at the wheel when they let ExxonMobil gain control of pretty much every refinery in the US.

That's why Exxon is posting record profits and not every gas company.
The profits are being made at the refinery level, and they're the only ones IN that game.

FitzRoy · Post by **FitzRoy** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:04 pm

On a global supply and demand level, there are people who believe we are nearing peak oil, which if true will have major ramifications on the price of oil. I listen to these guys a lot, and they've been pretty accurate on their forecasts.

http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/f ... 419-3a.mp3