FFVII Reunion Pack is crap

powerspike · Post by **powerspike** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:05 am

It also has some spelling and grammar corrections for the game script I believe. Plus you don't have to look at hideous wobbly polygons in the Playstation version. Well aside from the over world models since they look ugly either way. I'll have to actually play through the game to see how bad the crashing really is. But I think if you have most of those fixes applied you shouldn't get any crashes except during the snow board mini game.

diminish · Post by **diminish** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:42 pm

kode54 wrote:
neo_bahamut1985 wrote:
kode54 wrote:
DancemasterGlenn wrote:
neo_bahamut1985 wrote:Boy, that'll be the day when I can beat FFVII on Windows XP!
Fixed.
I beat FFVII on Windows XP. Using pSX Emulator. Fast forward grindan gaems ftw.
I meant the PC version; I've yet to hear of someone being able to do that.
Original version in emulator is still more compatible, but you don't get the XG music or 640x480 resolution menus and dialogs. Small price to pay, though.

*pyramid way to go* Yeah, I was going to say that earlier - people don't complicate your lives and play the PS one version

. About "the price", it's really subjective, especially when you consider nostalgia factor and that kind of stuff.

powerspike · Post by **powerspike** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:03 pm

Hrmm the system requirements for it are a Penitum 166. I doubt you could play the Playstation version on that. Plus I just played a large section of the game with out any crashing. People just have trouble following the patching instructions or get a hocky warezed version of the game. I wouldn't even bother with the hi res patch either. It probably makes the game unstable. Hell if anything it'll be way easier once q gears is completed. Hopefully they'll add support for the PC data.

neo_bahamut1985 · Post by **neo_bahamut1985** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:08 pm

powerspike wrote:Hrmm the system requirements for it are a Penitum 166. I doubt you could play the Playstation version on that. Plus I just played a large section of the game with out any crashing. People just have trouble following the patching instructions or get a hocky warezed version of the game.

So, what order did you apply the patches?

powerspike · Post by **powerspike** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:09 pm

I used the 1.02 exe, did the chocobo patch, and then did the mini game patch. Try it with that before installing the hi res patch to see if crashes or not.

ZH/Franky · Post by **ZH/Franky** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:00 pm

What's the difference between the PC version and the PSX version of FFVII anyway?

alexz721 · Post by **alexz721** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:16 pm

I think the PC version has better graphics and it definitely has lower loading times. On the flipside, the music is worse quality.

Post by **Agozer** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:35 pm

Not counting any hi-res graphics packs, the graphics in the PC version are identical to the PSX version. Of course, having hardware accelerated graphics does make some difference.

alexz721 · Post by **alexz721** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:46 pm

It makes quite a difference, actually. Kind of funny since the PC version of FFVIII has way worse graphics than it's PSX counterpart.

neo_bahamut1985 · Post by **neo_bahamut1985** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:56 pm

alexz721 wrote:It makes quite a difference, actually. Kind of funny since the PC version of FFVIII has way worse graphics than it's PSX counterpart.

Yes it does. Not to mention no one's made a PSF patch, and that makes it much worse. With ePSXe, the game looks better, but since there's no Z-buffer/hardware acceleration, the polygons are very jittery.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:57 pm

Agozer wrote:Not counting any hi-res graphics packs, the graphics in the PC version are identical to the PSX version. Of course, having hardware accelerated graphics does make some difference.

If I recall correctly, FF7PC uses 640*480 backgrounds. Not identical.

alexz721 · Post by **alexz721** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:07 pm

Oh yeah, the movies in FFVII PC are 320x200, which looks way worse on a computer monitor than a television. I think it's worth the tradeoff though, since you look at ingame graphics far more.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:49 pm

alexz721 wrote:Oh yeah, the movies in FFVII PC are 320x200, which looks way worse on a computer monitor than a television. I think it's worth the tradeoff though, since you look at ingame graphics far more.

That and the movies on PC version have a bit of lag before the load.
Or can, depending on system.

Mine were pretty bad.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:53 pm

I tend to believe that was dependant of the CD/DVD drive, only because the movies were played off it IIRC.

neo_bahamut1985 · Post by **neo_bahamut1985** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:31 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:
Agozer wrote:Not counting any hi-res graphics packs, the graphics in the PC version are identical to the PSX version. Of course, having hardware accelerated graphics does make some difference.
If I recall correctly, FF7PC uses 640*480 backgrounds. Not identical.

Another reason the FMVs on the PC version had more noticeable compression artifacts; the resolution was double the PSX native res.

I.S.T. · Post by **I.S.T.** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:03 am

Wrong. Poor encoding(For whatever reason) is why.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:06 am

I don't think there are two sets of movie res.. it's probably at the lowest possible res (320x240) and you're not going to properly appreciate it anyways, so complaining about it is fruitless.

neo_bahamut1985 · Post by **neo_bahamut1985** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:46 am

After applying the version 1.2 patch and the Chocobo patch, and loading it, I got myself a "lovely" black screen with the Eidos music loading and then the infamous XP "FFVII.exe has encountered a problem and has to shut down". To make things worse, the mouse cursor is gone AND I can't even access the "end process" option in the Task Manager. Not to mention it makes me warm reboot the computer. Sounds like a load of fun, huh?
Well, this goes back to what I said on my first post in this thread; FFVII PC sucks on XP/Vista. Not a biased opinion, but a 100% true statement. I mean, how in the h*** can they ( the patch programmers) claim that FFVII works in XP with or without patches? It's BS; nothing pure, unadulterated BS. I mean, don't they test the patches, let alone FFVII.exe before they release them!!? What in the h*** am I doing wrong? I followed the bloody instructions both from you guys and the documentation and it still didn't work. I want to say "Screw this, I'm playing the PSX version" and just give up. What more can I do? Sure, that would be easier, but, I like the enhanced graphics and loading times in the PC version. Sorry if it seems I'm coming off as being raunchy or rude, but, this is really retarded IMO.

I.S.T. · Post by **I.S.T.** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:56 am

There's probably a driver incompatibility or something... Have you tried following the instructions and running FF7 in windows 98 compatibility mode?

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:11 am

I.S.T. wrote:There's probably a driver incompatibility or something... Have you tried following the instructions and running FF7 in windows 98 compatibility mode?

neo_bahamut1985 wrote:Well, there is just one problem...FFVII PC does NOT work on Windows XP/vista even after changing the compatibility mode to "Windows 98/2000", which is the OS it worked on.

I.S.T. · Post by **I.S.T.** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:39 am

I meant on this latest attempt. >.>

neo_bahamut1985 · Post by **neo_bahamut1985** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:37 am

Tried it (Windows 98/ME mode) and yet again, it screws me over. That so-called "compatibility" mode doesn't work worth crap. I mean, there has to be a way. My PC specifications (hardware and software) have no issues with any other applications. I've yet to see a driver conflict, but, maybe there is one after all...

CPU - 3.20GHz P4 (Prescott series) (64-bit) (SSE/SSE2/SSE3/EMT64)
RAM - 3072GB DDR2 SDRAM (PC 6400)
OS - Windows XP Home w/SP3
Video - nVidia/eVGA GeForce 9600GT 512MB GDDR3 RAM
Pixel Shader - 4.0
DirectX - 9.0c
Driver Version - 175.19
Sound - Realtek 5.1 HD Audio (integrated)
BIOS - AmBios

I.S.T. · Post by **I.S.T.** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:50 am

I'm sure you've already done this, but have you tried Windows 95 compatibility mode? After some googling, I found that some people were only able to fix their problems via that and the patches.

neo_bahamut1985 · Post by **neo_bahamut1985** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:22 am

Hmm...Let me try the Windows 95 mode...

Edit 2 min later - Nope. It crashed.

DancemasterGlenn · Post by **DancemasterGlenn** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:36 am

neo_bahamut1985 wrote:Sorry if it seems I'm coming off as being raunchy or rude

You censored the word "hell". I think you're coming off as something else entirely.

The fact of the matter is, whether you want to admit it or not, people have played through and beaten ff7 in windows xp. Yes, it should be working much better than it is, but ranting about it in the zsnes forums isn't going to magically make the game take notice and stop crashing on you.

The only thing I can think of to even remotely try and assist you is to ask whether you used the two recommended patches on a completely fresh install of the game. And I mean a complete wipe of the game from your system before attempting this. I'm praying you at least had the sense to do that before going off on your rant.