Can't install new hard drive

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:23 pm

nab nlite, it'll make slip-streaming easier

Annihilated · Post by **Annihilated** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:37 pm

Here's an odd thing. I get a stop error now even when there is no drive connected. It used to just tell me that there was no hard drive found. Maybe I did mess things up with that flash update... I have to find the original BIOS somehow.

Post by **odditude** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:50 pm

what stop error? it doesn't help that you give half-descriptions of what goes wrong and need to get pressed for (the same) details every time.

Annihilated · Post by **Annihilated** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:59 pm

The SAME stop error. 0x0000007B INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE. It occurs whether or not there is a hard drive present.

Post by **odditude** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:53 pm

you tried running setup without a hard drive installed...?

Annihilated · Post by **Annihilated** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:58 am

Yes, just to see what would happen.

Post by **odditude** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:52 am

interesting.

is your optical drive SATA or IDE?

you don't by chance have any card readers or flash drives attached, do you? (including any internal USB card readers)

Annihilated · Post by **Annihilated** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:06 am

The CD-ROM drive? It's IDE. And no, nothing else is attached or plugged in besides the CD-ROM, the floppy, and the hard drive. I'm going to try finding an older version of my BIOS... that's the one thing I can think of that caused this all of a sudden.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:15 am

try removing your floppy and see if that blue screen goes away, since 1) you said the drive no longer functions with this BIOS and 2) It would be Listed as the A or B drive and most likely checked before everything else.

Post by **odditude** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:11 am

franpa wrote:try removing your floppy and see if that blue screen goes away, since 1) you said the drive no longer functions with this BIOS and 2) It would be Listed as the A or B drive and most likely checked before everything else.

no.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:44 am

franpa wrote:try removing your floppy and see if that blue screen goes away, since 1) you said the drive no longer functions with this BIOS and 2) It would be Listed as the A or B drive and most likely checked before everything else.

Floppy drives DO NOT GET LISTED in the partition list anyway, idiot.

Annihilated · Post by **Annihilated** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:01 pm

Well the nLite made the CD bootable, but I'm still getting the error. I don't think it matters what I do now. I've tried different CD ROM drives, different boot settings, I think it's impossible to install Windows 2000 on this BIOS version. I need to revert back to the previous version but I can't find it anywhere on the internet... this is a big problem.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:52 pm

Which is why most (afaik) motherboard manufacturor websites include a FAQ or a note telling you to back up the original BIOS before flashing to a different one.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:05 pm

It's because of the tried and true mentality... "don't fix what ain't broken". Plus some mobos don't start with the initial BIOS (version/revision 1), for the possibility that your CPU that you got won't be recognized properly with the earlier BIOS.

Annihilated · Post by **Annihilated** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:02 pm

But it WAS broken. My BIOS would not recognize the hard drive no matter what I did. And it did not say anywhere that I should or could back up the old BIOS. Besides, I never had a problem with BIOS flashes before, why now? Why make one that's designed not to work?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:21 pm

Technically, the manufacturer should provide all versions of the BIOS for a mobo.. but if you didn't heed their word, I guess that's on you. You may want to dig further on the site, or someone might be able to dig for you, but meh.

Annihilated · Post by **Annihilated** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:35 am

Well it's been a while, hasn't it? So what happened was my 30 GB hard drive that I've had for 5 or 6 years finally died. Or at least has damaged sectors. I was able to recover most of the data I wanted from it, except the data that was also on my flash drive... which also died shortly after.

Anyway, I bought myself a new IDE hard drive so I could at least get Windows 2000 running on the new computer. The SATA is sitting in there as well, just not as a primary. It's working fine. Now, I used the slipstreamed Windows 2000 SP4 install, but still the IDE hard drive is recognized only as 128 GB instead of 160 GB. The SATA is being read as a 232 GB when it should be a 250 GB, but I guess that's closer. Anyway, how can I get the remaining space on the first hard drive back? Or how can I make it into a new partition? It doesn't seem to appear in Disk Management.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:52 am

Partition Magic is great for what your after, but it does not come free... and is no longer supported (IIRC) since Symantec bought the company/product.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:01 am

Annihilated wrote:Anyway, I bought myself a new IDE hard drive so I could at least get Windows 2000 running on the new computer. The SATA is sitting in there as well, just not as a primary. It's working fine. Now, I used the slipstreamed Windows 2000 SP4 install, but still the IDE hard drive is recognized only as 128 GB instead of 160 GB. The SATA is being read as a 232 GB when it should be a 250 GB, but I guess that's closer. Anyway, how can I get the remaining space on the first hard drive back? Or how can I make it into a new partition? It doesn't seem to appear in Disk Management.

The first hard drive sounds like you didn't enable 48-bit LBA addressing.

The second one sounds more like marketing speak kicked you in the nuts.

Annihilated · Post by **Annihilated** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:12 am

Deathlike2 wrote:
Annihilated wrote:Anyway, I bought myself a new IDE hard drive so I could at least get Windows 2000 running on the new computer. The SATA is sitting in there as well, just not as a primary. It's working fine. Now, I used the slipstreamed Windows 2000 SP4 install, but still the IDE hard drive is recognized only as 128 GB instead of 160 GB. The SATA is being read as a 232 GB when it should be a 250 GB, but I guess that's closer. Anyway, how can I get the remaining space on the first hard drive back? Or how can I make it into a new partition? It doesn't seem to appear in Disk Management.
The first hard drive sounds like you didn't enable 48-bit LBA addressing.

The second one sounds more like marketing speak kicked you in the nuts.

-What is that? Do I do that in the BIOS?

-Marketing speak? It was an OEM drive from newegg... and it says 250 GB right on the label. :-/

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:32 am

Annihilated wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote:
Annihilated wrote:Anyway, I bought myself a new IDE hard drive so I could at least get Windows 2000 running on the new computer. The SATA is sitting in there as well, just not as a primary. It's working fine. Now, I used the slipstreamed Windows 2000 SP4 install, but still the IDE hard drive is recognized only as 128 GB instead of 160 GB. The SATA is being read as a 232 GB when it should be a 250 GB, but I guess that's closer. Anyway, how can I get the remaining space on the first hard drive back? Or how can I make it into a new partition? It doesn't seem to appear in Disk Management.
The first hard drive sounds like you didn't enable 48-bit LBA addressing.

The second one sounds more like marketing speak kicked you in the nuts.
-What is that? Do I do that in the BIOS?

It's a registry entry you have to enable.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098

-Marketing speak? It was an OEM drive from newegg... and it says 250 GB right on the label. :-/

So? They could be using stupid speak (1 GB = 1, 000, 000, 000 bytes).

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:45 am

Besides, 232GB sounds right anyway for a 250GB Drive.

So yeah, victimized by market speak.

Post by **odditude** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:45 am

232 for the 250 and 149 for the 160.

the "marketing speak" is using the metric definitions of the prefixes instead of the binary definitions.

package says 250GB (meaning 250,000,000,000 bytes). windows sees that and gives you 250,000,000,000 / (1024^3) = roughly 232.8GB.

infernal cat edit: also see my silly rant about it

Annihilated · Post by **Annihilated** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:24 am

Well I resized the drive successfully now, thanks to this wonderful little program. I booted it from a floppy, and a couple of restarts later, I'm back up to 150 GB.

SquareHead · Post by **SquareHead** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:31 am

Annihilated wrote:Well I resized the drive successfully now, thanks to this wonderful little program. I booted it from a floppy, and a couple of restarts later, I'm back up to 150 GB.

I was never able to use that one. I tend to use the gparted live cd these days.

Edited due to spelling stupidity.