XBOX360 CD release button?

Lord Alpha · Post by **Lord Alpha** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:05 pm

So, I bought my XBOX 360 after Christmas last year and I played it for like three weeks. I went to go play some Battlefront 2 last night online and I received the always dreaded Red Ring Of Death

I want to exchange it (The store I bought it from has a 30-day return policy) but there's a disc in the drive, and even if I turn the power on, I can't eject the disc. Does the console have an "emergency eject" button/mechanism I can use to open the drive manually?

Post by **odditude** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:43 pm

google xbox 360 drive eject mechanism wrote:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/906935

diminish · Post by **diminish** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:50 pm

Well, isn't it ridiculous? Of course Xbox case isn't nothing new, but from my experience failing electronics is becoming more and more common these days. Dear Corporations, CHICKITY-CHECK YA SELF BEFORE YOU WRIGGITY-WRECK YA SELF.

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:59 pm

the only electronics that have let me down recently is cell phones. pieces of SHITE I tell you.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:45 pm

diminish wrote:Well, isn't it ridiculous? Of course Xbox case isn't nothing new, but from my experience failing electronics is becoming more and more common these days. Dear Corporations, CHICKITY-CHECK YA SELF BEFORE YOU WRIGGITY-WRECK YA SELF.

You know what's ridiculous, posting NON-HELPFUL stuff in a thread where someone is obviously asking for help.

diminish · Post by **diminish** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:32 pm

Joe Camacho wrote:
diminish wrote:Well, isn't it ridiculous? Of course Xbox case isn't nothing new, but from my experience failing electronics is becoming more and more common these days. Dear Corporations, CHICKITY-CHECK YA SELF BEFORE YOU WRIGGITY-WRECK YA SELF.
You know what's ridiculous, posting NON-HELPFUL stuff in a thread where someone is obviously asking for help.

From what I can tell, help was provided by odditude giving the best possible source, I was trying to be helpful by trying to show a bit of emphaty about the situation. Sorry for being totally useless

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Post by **grinvader** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:38 pm

emphaty is now the most badass way to fail at empathy

the phat way

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:54 pm

diminish wrote:Well, isn't it ridiculous? Of course Xbox case isn't nothing new, but from my experience failing electronics is becoming more and more common these days. Dear Corporations, CHICKITY-CHECK YA SELF BEFORE YOU WRIGGITY-WRECK YA SELF.

Hate to contribute, but this is what happens when you buy from china.

that being said, I thought the red rings of death has been taken care of

diminish · Post by **diminish** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:12 pm

grinvader wrote:emphaty is now the most badass way to fail at empathy

the phat way

Lord have mercy upon word formation

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adventure_of_link wrote:
diminish wrote:Well, isn't it ridiculous? Of course Xbox case isn't nothing new, but from my experience failing electronics is becoming more and more common these days. Dear Corporations, CHICKITY-CHECK YA SELF BEFORE YOU WRIGGITY-WRECK YA SELF.
Hate to contribute, but this is what happens when you buy from china.

that being said, I thought the red rings of death has been taken care of

That's right, but nowadays most of stuff comes from China, for example PS2 assembly has been moved to China since V9. What can typical consumer do about it?

Rashidi · Post by **Rashidi** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:55 am

diminish wrote:What can typical consumer do about it?

simply complain (and occasionaly sues *invokes certain lawyer*)

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:58 am

adventure_of_link wrote:that being said, I thought the red rings of death has been taken care of

The latest revision, named Jasper, is supposed to be the one with fewer failure rates. MS should've waited and fixed the hardware problems instead of rushing the 360 for release.

Starman Ghost · Post by **Starman Ghost** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:06 am

Rashidi wrote:
diminish wrote:What can typical consumer do about it?
simply complain (and occasionaly sues *invokes certain lawyer*)

If you're thinking about who you're thinking, he's lost his license.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:54 am

snkcube wrote:
adventure_of_link wrote:that being said, I thought the red rings of death has been taken care of
The latest revision, named Jasper, is supposed to be the one with fewer failure rates. MS should've waited and fixed the hardware problems instead of rushing the 360 for release.

Yes, you probably ended up with an ancient xbox360 that uses monolithic heat sinks that fail :/

blargg · Post by **blargg** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:13 pm

adventure_of_link wrote:Hate to contribute, but this is what happens when you buy from china.

Actually, ROHS is the new "Made in China", only this was done intentionally.

Lord Alpha · Post by **Lord Alpha** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:13 pm

@odditude

Thank you sir.

franpa wrote:
snkcube wrote:
adventure_of_link wrote:that being said, I thought the red rings of death has been taken care of
The latest revision, named Jasper, is supposed to be the one with fewer failure rates. MS should've waited and fixed the hardware problems instead of rushing the 360 for release.
Yes, you probably ended up with an ancient xbox360 that uses monolithic heat sinks that fail :/

And how would I be able to avoid getting another one of those? Is there some method of being able to tell without opening the box?

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:19 pm

model/serial number or even easier, power supply wattage. the new ones use 175 WATTs IIRC.

All of them are listed on the xbox 360 box and the on appropriate devices.

Post by **odditude** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:48 pm

Lord Alpha wrote:And how would I be able to avoid getting another one of those? Is there some method of being able to tell without opening the box?

arstechnica.com wrote:The absolute, idiot-proof tell? "12,1A" shown on the power information on the back of the console. You may need to move the system slightly to read this information through the open slot on the box, but its worth it.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:58 am

Wattage is another idiot proof way, the new consoles that use a 65nm processor use less power and have lower rated power supplies.

Post by **odditude** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:59 am

franpa wrote:Wattage is another idiot proof way, the new consoles that use a 65nm processor use less power and have lower rated power supplies.

...which you can't see without opening the box.

Post by **grinvader** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:23 am

Use the X-Ray visor ?

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:44 am

odditude wrote:
franpa wrote:Wattage is another idiot proof way, the new consoles that use a 65nm processor use less power and have lower rated power supplies.
...which you can't see without opening the box.

Actually, you CAN.

All 360s use the same voltages, so by reading the amperage, you know the wattage.

Which doesn't mean franpa's being anything other than unhelpful, but...
Not to mention some of the new consoles ship with the older, more robust power supplies, so his test has false negatives as well as requiring you to open the package.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:47 am

Eh, it was the most solid reason posted in the sticky over on the official xbox 360 forum.. may have changed recently though.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:07 am

Wouldn't it tell you the PSU rating somewhere in the manual anyway

Barring that, doing what Gil said will only give what the system is using at any one given time.. The PSU could be say, 500 watts max but actual mileage may vary (meaning it could use as much as 350-400 watts.)

And then of course there's the matter of different AC voltages around the world.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:24 am

adventure_of_link wrote: Barring that, doing what Gil said will only give what the system is using at any one given time.. The PSU could be say, 500 watts max but actual mileage may vary (meaning it could use as much as 350-400 watts.)

If you have the SYSTEM'S RATED amperage, you know what the SYSTEM'S EXPECTED current drain is. And multiplying that by the voltage gets you the system's rated wattage.

The rating label is not a random momentary measurement.