Windows 7 Beta available to download on Jan 9th

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:40 am

or mount in a virtual drive under Vista and do an upgrade install!

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:28 am

kick wrote:
As soon as I can find or get access to a DVD burner and a blank DVD disk, then sure!
You can install it from a USB Flash drive as well. Installation is much faster that way.

Nice.

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:44 am

franpa wrote:or mount in a virtual drive under Vista and do an upgrade install!

i'm pretty sure that won't fly.

my upgrade told me to uninstall daemon before it would consider continuing

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:07 am

Possibly because it uses that virtual SCSI interface thing that alcohol uses as well, I think it is called SPTD or something. That itself won't install under Windows 7 no matter what, and the people maintaining SPTD do not wish to work on a version for Windows 7 Beta.

You can possibly use VirtualCloneDrive from ElaborateBytes. This does not depend on SPTD and works fine in Windows 7.

Windows Vista and Windows 7 setup both extract all the necessary files for installation from the disc before installing anything anyways, so I guess it does that part within Windows then reboots when doing an upgrade.

Squall_Leonhart · Post by **Squall_Leonhart** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:01 pm

Well i looked into the Ddraw issues, and apparently theres 2 things at play

1. Directdraw hacks have been removed.
2. DirectDraw is not complete in Windows 7. (files missing)

You can unpack a Dx7 redist and copy out the missing files to system32, which will make some games work, though then you run into the fact the Widows Taskbar is being overlayed ontop of the active window... i dunno if thats a bug in Explorer, or in Win7 directdraw.

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:32 pm

Actually that doesn't sound like a "bug" at all.

Squall_Leonhart · Post by **Squall_Leonhart** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:18 pm

creaothceann wrote:Actually that doesn't sound like a "bug" at all.

It is when the active window is full screen.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:16 am

Would explain why you need to close Explorer.exe processes in order to get correct colour in W:A (and WWP) and Zelda Classic ^^"

h4tred · Post by **h4tred** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:47 am

Where's those franpa alerts?

and the people maintaining SPTD do not wish to work on a version for Windows 7.

Wrong. They will work on a driver for Windows 7.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:13 am

h4tred wrote:Where's those franpa alerts?

I was about to drop one earlier myself, but held my tongue

in any case, try http://linksadventure.no-ip.org/pictures/franpa-alert/

PLEASE make sure to put that into your bookmarks, people.

h4tred · Post by **h4tred** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:32 am

Thanks AOL, much appreciated

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:10 am

h4tred wrote:Thanks AOL, much appreciated

No problem buddy

and BTW, earlier I was thinking of a red franpa alert.. I s'pose a orange one will work too.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:34 am

h4tred wrote:Where's those franpa alerts?

and the people maintaining SPTD do not wish to work on a version for Windows 7.

Wrong. They will work on a driver for Windows 7.

I thought I edited it to include the word beta.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:47 am

I just found what appears to be the most buggiest part of Windows 7

The Windows 7 Startup Repair Suite that you have access to during a bad Windows Startup crashes with random memory references, oh and System Restore could not mount the registry backup, so it failed.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:55 am

franpa wrote:oh and System Restore could not mount the registry backup, so it failed.

Eh, system restore has always been the buggiest part of windows so..

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:32 am

it's never failed me

side note, i recently went back to vista on the laptop for stability's sake. also having my blu-ray drive recognized again is nice.

but i do miss the new UI. the superbar rocks my socks. same with variable UAC controls.

SquareHead · Post by **SquareHead** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:06 am

I liked 7 bu reverted back to XP SP3 on my netbook for now. The performance was great, but have video issues, and the occasional hiccup with my wireless drivers. Stuff that will eventually be ironed out when its ready.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:21 pm

I just got around to (finally!

) installing Windows 7, and I must say it is awesome. Even though DAEMON Tools is still being a bitch, at least it found and used all my hardware (video card, sound card, and wireless to be specific) without me needing to use the recovery disk.

Aero is somewhat better in this release as well, even snes9x plays nice with it.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:09 am

You can't install SPTD on Windows 7, so you can't install Daemon Tools or Alcohol Software.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:56 am

franpa wrote:You can't install SPTD on Windows 7, so you can't install Daemon Tools or Alcohol Software.

I had completely forgotten about that until I went and took a nap -_-"

still though, so far the only emulators that are running full speed for me are ZSNES and project 64.. snes9x for some reason is having trouble here

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:14 am

If your after a virtual optical drive for Windows 7, you can see if Elaborate Bytes virtual drive fits your needs

it doesn't depend on SPTD.

AamirM · Post by **AamirM** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:13 pm

still though, so far the only emulators that are running full speed for me are ZSNES and project 64.. snes9x for some reason is having trouble here Confused

Has anybody looked into it? Do emulators still stutter like in Vista?

Since Project64 doesn't use DirecDraw so I am not surprised its running normal. And neither about ZSNES. The damn thing is so fast, it hardly gets affected by anything

. I am worried about other "not so fast" emus.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:03 am

ZSNES and PJ64 don't stutter, but VBA-M and snes9x tend to do so.

AamirM · Post by **AamirM** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:06 pm

adventure_of_link wrote:ZSNES and PJ64 don't stutter, but VBA-M and snes9x tend to do so.

With Vsync enabled?

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:55 am

VBA-M doesn't stutter when using Direct3D and VSYNC for me. I am using the 181.22 WHQL drivers instead of the 197.23 WDDM 1.1 pre-release drivers.