Windows 7 Beta available to download on Jan 9th

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:05 pm

except the briefing/victory/lose scenes, every tune is changed. They may be familiar enough that you can't remember them as clearly as you'd expect.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:24 am

Deathlike2 wrote: I'm very aware of that... it's been used since Diablo or Starcraft (not sure any earlier, but meh). I was hoping for CD Quality MP3s, but I guess I can't really tell much of a difference.

No such thing as CD-quality MP3. MP3 is a lossy compression format, and a not-very-high-quality one at that.

Vote for me, and I will ban 128-kbit music files.

Post by **Agozer** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:37 am

Gil_Hamilton wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote: I'm very aware of that... it's been used since Diablo or Starcraft (not sure any earlier, but meh). I was hoping for CD Quality MP3s, but I guess I can't really tell much of a difference.
No such thing as CD-quality MP3. MP3 is a lossy compression format, and a not-very-high-quality one at that.

Vote for me, and I will ban 128-kbit music files.

VBR MP3 with 192kbps minimum, thanks.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:50 am

FLAC is CD quality

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:21 am

franpa wrote:FLAC is CD quality

At proper sample rates and frequencies.
PCM is too(usually seen inside a wave file, but coincidentally also the way the data is stored on an audio CD).

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:36 am

Gil_Hamilton wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote: I'm very aware of that... it's been used since Diablo or Starcraft (not sure any earlier, but meh). I was hoping for CD Quality MP3s, but I guess I can't really tell much of a difference.
No such thing as CD-quality MP3. MP3 is a lossy compression format, and a not-very-high-quality one at that.

I should've said "insert your favorite compression here". God forbid I am to be taken literally when I just want good audio.

Post by **grinvader** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:15 pm

Agozer wrote:VBR MP3 with 192kbps minimum, thanks.

this

Tallgeese · Post by **Tallgeese** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:06 pm

grinvader wrote:
Agozer wrote:VBR MP3 with 192kbps minimum, thanks.
this

I prefer 320 kbps minimum.

Just to be safe.

kode54 · Post by **kode54** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:58 pm

Metatron wrote:
grinvader wrote:
Agozer wrote:VBR MP3 with 192kbps minimum, thanks.
this
I prefer 320 kbps minimum.

Just to be safe.

lol wasted bits. V0 should be sufficient for anyone. If not, go lossless.

diminish · Post by **diminish** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:10 am

I don't like artifacts in my music or narrowed frequency/dynamic range, so I prefer lossless. I always try to get the best available quality, but I won't complain much if mp3 has at least 192kbps cbr. Using vbr, q0.95 aac (Nero) for iPod (shuffle first gen, no lossless support except wav).

Tallgeese · Post by **Tallgeese** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:29 am

kode54 wrote:
Metatron wrote:
grinvader wrote:
Agozer wrote:VBR MP3 with 192kbps minimum, thanks.
this
I prefer 320 kbps minimum.

Just to be safe.
lol wasted bits. V0 should be sufficient for anyone. If not, go lossless.

Ahhh, well then I'll lower my standards.

Sometimes I can get overzealous.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Tue May 05, 2009 8:10 am

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... nload.aspx

Windows 7 RC is now live. Grab it while it's hot!

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Tue May 05, 2009 8:21 am

Already had it installed for a while now o_o. Microsoft are slow

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Tue May 05, 2009 8:23 am

You have to remember that this is for the public to download. I know that the RC was released for MSDN and was leaked out days ago.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Tue May 05, 2009 8:25 am

It was leaked before the release to Technet.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Tue May 05, 2009 8:28 am

Yeah, I know that too.

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Tue May 05, 2009 9:12 am

franpa wrote:repeating snkcube without a care in the world

and nach wondered why i thought reading had died

kick · Post by **kick** » Tue May 05, 2009 10:21 am

snkcube wrote:http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... nload.aspx

Windows 7 RC is now live. Grab it while it's hot!

It would be really nice to have the checksums for the English builds.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Tue May 05, 2009 12:51 pm

English
7100.0.090421-1700_x86fre_client_en-us_retail_ultimate-grc1culfrer_en_dvd.iso
Size: 2.35GB
MD5: 8867C13330F56A93944BCD46DCD73590
SHA-1: 7D1F486CA569EFFFFB719CFB48355BB7BF499712
CRC32: E8A1C394

English
7100.0.090421-1700_x64fre_client_en-us_retail_ultimate-grc1culxfrer_en_dvd.iso
Size: 3.04GB
MD5: 98341af35655137966e382c4feaa282d
SHA-1: fc867fe1ab2e0a9796f9e4d155b44ea6998f4874
CRC32: 58fb2be0

elitejavi · Post by **elitejavi** » Fri May 15, 2009 5:15 am

using it(the RC)(x64)
10 times faster than XP x32(in general response time)
can't get used to control panel and stuff because I'm way too used to XP's one(never touched vista)

i like it so far!
it pretty much awesome, except punkbuster doesn't work...

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:43 am

I'm using it now.

I am amused that MS has STILL not disabled the old Win3.1 control menu in the top-left corner of every window. Including the base Explorer windows that have no icon up there.

Spoilers: Double-click the top-left corner for a SUPER-SEKRIT EASTER EGG!

Anyone that comes back griping at me is a total noob.

Post by **odditude** » Fri May 15, 2009 6:53 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:I am amused that MS has STILL not disabled the old Win3.1 control menu in the top-left corner of every window. Including the base Explorer windows that have no icon up there.

it's necessary to manipulate windows (move/resize/minimize/maximize/restore) with the keyboard alone. yay for alt-space-m/s/n/x/r!

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:46 pm

odditude wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:I am amused that MS has STILL not disabled the old Win3.1 control menu in the top-left corner of every window. Including the base Explorer windows that have no icon up there.
it's necessary to manipulate windows (move/resize/minimize/maximize/restore) with the keyboard alone. yay for alt-space-m/s/n/x/r!

They've considered Windows a mouse-required interface since 1995.

And there's no reason to maintain the double-click-to-close functionality other than my personal amusement every time I convince someone to try it.

(Actually, I use that functionality, depending on which side of the window my cursor is closer to.)

Post by **odditude** » Fri May 15, 2009 10:08 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:
odditude wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:I am amused that MS has STILL not disabled the old Win3.1 control menu in the top-left corner of every window. Including the base Explorer windows that have no icon up there.
it's necessary to manipulate windows (move/resize/minimize/maximize/restore) with the keyboard alone. yay for alt-space-m/s/n/x/r!
They've considered Windows a mouse-required interface since 1995.

windows "best practice" is still to have every app fully navigable by keyboard, whether or not most users actually make use of that functionality.

i use the abovementioned menu constantly, for minimize/maximize/restore via keyboard.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Fri May 15, 2009 11:47 pm

elitejavi wrote:can't get used to control panel and stuff because I'm way too used to XP's one(never touched vista)

If you want the old control panel, open CP and just click on "view by:" and change it to something else.