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funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Sun May 02, 2010 3:08 am

sweener2001 wrote:i don't like opera just because i think it's ugly as sin.
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thats the reason why I avoided opera till the late 9 series, and I only use it at work.

paulguy · Post by **paulguy** » Sun May 02, 2010 4:06 am

Yeah that's something that bugs me about Opera... I really wish it had the option to use the native controls as much as possible. Every program should do this, really. At LEAST try to match the system colors without looking broken/terrible.

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Sun May 02, 2010 5:13 am

what really put me off was the CLUTTERED FIRST SCREEN it used to present.

Post by **lordmissus** » Sun May 02, 2010 12:25 pm

Hm..

It turns out that Google Chrome passes Acid 3 100% too, in addition to Acid 1 and Acid 2. And it's open source, unlike Opera... well it looks like I've got a new browser. It's interface is awesome, too.

Clean, fun and friendly.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Mon May 03, 2010 7:04 am

I'm a bitter old fart.
I use Seamonkey, as begotten from Mozilla Suite, as begotten from Netscape Navigator, as begotten from Mosaic.

All this new-fangled googlebox and search toolbar and no menubar nonsense is for sissies. REAL MEN use apps with a GUI from 1993(or 2003).

Post by **grinvader** » Mon May 03, 2010 6:23 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:I'm a bitter old fart.
I use Seamonkey, as begotten from Mozilla Suite, as begotten from Netscape Navigator, as begotten from Mosaic.

All this new-fangled googlebox and search toolbar and no menubar nonsense is for sissies. REAL MEN use apps with a GUI from 1993(or 2003).

x2

tukuyomi · Post by **tukuyomi** » Mon May 03, 2010 7:43 pm

grinvader wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:I'm a bitter old fart.
I use Seamonkey, as begotten from Mozilla Suite, as begotten from Netscape Navigator, as begotten from Mosaic.

All this new-fangled googlebox and search toolbar and no menubar nonsense is for sissies. REAL MEN use apps with a GUI from 1993(or 2003).
x2

Iceape for myself (Debian fork of Seamonkey) but yeah, all the same as above.

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Tue May 04, 2010 9:27 am

lordmister wrote:Google Chrome [...] looks like I've got a new browser

SRWare Iron > Google Chrome

Post by **lordmissus** » Tue May 04, 2010 10:58 pm

creaothceann wrote:
lordmister wrote:Google Chrome [...] looks like I've got a new browser
SRWare Iron > Google Chrome

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Sat May 08, 2010 5:42 pm

lordmister wrote:Hm..

It turns out that Google Chrome passes Acid 3 100% too, in addition to Acid 1 and Acid 2. And it's open source, unlike Opera... well it looks like I've got a new browser. It's interface is awesome, too.

Clean, fun and friendly.

it may be open source but they like to know everything about you. I never understood what was so cool about the interface either, it has no soul.

In any case Iron is a good way to go unfortunately it's very outdated at the moment.

Post by **grinvader** » Sat May 08, 2010 11:17 pm

Panzer88 wrote:it may be open source but they like to know everything about you.

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<Aerdan>    Unrelatedly, for the benefit of people who complain about Google's tracking in Chrome: http://inari.aerdan.org/gallery/chromeopts.png
<Aerdan>    Because really, if you need that image to figure out how to disable it, you're an idiot.

You are.

Aerdan · Post by **Aerdan** » Sun May 09, 2010 10:01 am

Never use Iron. It rips out all the tracking. Including things that just have 'Tracker' in the name and are otherwise irrelevant (which an actual developer would know is irrelevant). Plus, the fact that it's independently maintained does indeed mean it's going to be out of date. But hey, if you're so paranoid you'd rather have lots of security holes than let Google have anonymous statistics, then go right ahead and be too retarded to survive in this world.

Props to grin for alerting and quoting me.

Aerdan · Post by **Aerdan** » Sun May 09, 2010 1:21 pm

tukuyomi wrote:
grinvader wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:I'm a bitter old fart.
I use Seamonkey, as begotten from Mozilla Suite, as begotten from Netscape Navigator, as begotten from Mosaic.

All this new-fangled googlebox and search toolbar and no menubar nonsense is for sissies. REAL MEN use apps with a GUI from 1993(or 2003).
x2
Iceape for myself (Debian fork of Seamonkey) but yeah, all the same as above.

No, Iceape is a Debian rebranding of Seamonkey inspired by Mozilla's asking people to either not patch Firefox/Seamonkey or not ship them as Firefox/Seamonkey.

Iceweasel and Iceape are also GNU forks that nobody really cares about because GNU sucks. (GNU sucks so much that Debian et al are using eglibc instead of glibc, and posixutils instead of coreutils, etc.)

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Sun May 09, 2010 7:54 pm

grinvader wrote:
Panzer88 wrote:it may be open source but they like to know everything about you.
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<Aerdan>    Unrelatedly, for the benefit of people who complain about Google's tracking in Chrome: http://inari.aerdan.org/gallery/chromeopts.png
<Aerdan>    Because really, if you need that image to figure out how to disable it, you're an idiot.
You are.

heh, I use either variant of the browser so I don't really care.

my main point was that people see them as their own benevolent father, but they are businessmen, same as most, and they are making money on your statistics. It was a response to someone talking about how open source and loving google is.

As for disabling it, that only disables part of the tracking within the browser (albeit the largest part)

Aerdan · Post by **Aerdan** » Fri May 14, 2010 11:59 pm

No.

By unchecking all of the encircled checkboxes, you disable all of Chrome's tracking. I have confirmed this with one of Google's engineers, who actually works on the damn thing. Unlike you.

And you may interpret the periods in the above as being "you fucking idiot". Since, y'know, you are.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sat May 15, 2010 7:14 am

Aerdan wrote:No.

By unchecking all of the encircled checkboxes, you disable all of Chrome's tracking. I have confirmed this with one of Google's engineers, who actually works on the damn thing. Unlike you.

And you may interpret the periods in the above as being "you fucking idiot". Since, y'know, you are.

BIASED SOURCE!111

Aerdan · Post by **Aerdan** » Sat May 15, 2010 3:45 pm

No, that would be Google's marketing department.

You're welcome to source-dive and prove me wrong, though.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sun May 16, 2010 7:11 am

The !111 denotes sarcasm.

Clements · Post by **Clements** » Wed May 19, 2010 12:28 pm

Nowadays I use Opera as my main browser with Chrome as a backup. I switched from Firefox when it started to appear noticeably slow compared to the competition, but apparently they are working on that now.

Aerdan · Post by **Aerdan** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:07 am

Just in case anyone doubted me...

Rashidi · Post by **Rashidi** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:32 am

anything that is less bloated are better i guess?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:53 pm

Iron really sounds like it is for paranoid people to be honest. If you are incapable of disabling a few options, then I guess there's not much else to say.

At least Chrome 5 is out...

Post by **lordmissus** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:41 pm

...this thread is still going?
...

I just installed Chrome 5 on my AMD64 Ubuntu box. At least I'm not using a beta version of the software anymore.

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