ZSNES documentation needs updating before v1.40

gaijinx1 · Post by **gaijinx1** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:39 pm

Uh, hello? Are people not here? What happened with my SPC711 docs.
(Ah, geez. If the document I made sucks, I'm screwed.) Okay, so I guess there's no one out on this thread. Pph! The heck with this, I'm going to play Final Fantasy Dawn of Souls or Tales of Phantasia on Visual Boy Advance.

illegal eagle · Post by **illegal eagle** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:00 pm

SPC7110

*saves thread*

ipher · Post by **ipher** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:02 pm

gaijinx1 wrote:Uh, hello? Are people not here? What happened with my SPC711 docs.
(Ah, geez. If the document I made sucks, I'm screwed.) Okay, so I guess there's no one out on this thread. Pph! The heck with this, I'm going to play Final Fantasy Dawn of Souls or Tales of Phantasia on Visual Boy Advance.

actually, i never got your email... Im guessing gmail is just being a b*tch again...

kieran_ · Post by **kieran_** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:21 pm

grinvader wrote:
benden_dragon wrote:I am new member to the forums, but I have been reading these posts for a long time now. I promise I will not make the mistake other people have made (like a guy called "gaijinx1", don't know 'im, but I think he's a fool). I will never bug anyone about Zsnes and when it's coming out. I've been keeping up with Zsnes documentation though, and I know it's coming along very nicely. Keep up the good work, I know you can do it! If there's anything I can do to help, please let me know.
It's so funny I've fallen from my chair.
Gaijinx1, for the love of god, at least change your damn IP when you do something like this.

Either that, or do like Icecreamz: keep your old account and just say "ok i'll stop the shit now, sorry" and stop the shit for good.

HA! I can't believe that he actually did that. Incredible.

Back on topic... Shouldn't Radio get a credit, seeing as the design of the docs is based on the Zsnes.com design, which was created by him? i do not see his name in the credits section anywhere.

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:40 pm

You can send things with yousendit.com. Try that.

Oh, and here's another revision of the man page. I changed quite a bit. I still haven't added a bug reporting section, yet. Should I tell people to use the SF bug tracker, or come post here?

EDIT: Oops, here.

http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=9699A ... E2A10DBDB5

gaijinx1 · Post by **gaijinx1** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:04 pm

Well, Noxious Nina, I used yousendit.com (sent it to ipher@gmail.com) and it apparently worked. Tell this to ipher, please. I hope that the SPC7110 doc is sufficient.

xamenus · Post by **xamenus** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:27 pm

I think my version of the documents is pretty much gramatically correct now. The GUI section needs updating.

Can someone please go to http://geocities.com/icefox150/windows/gui.htm#config and check the sound section and see if it's OK? I also need to know what exactly "Disable SPC Emulation" is.

gaijinx1 wrote:Well, Noxious Nina, I used yousendit.com (sent it to ipher@gmail.com) and it apparently worked. Tell this to ipher, please. I hope that the SPC7110 doc is sufficient.

That's because his address is ipher1@gmail.com

gaijinx1 · Post by **gaijinx1** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:13 pm

Okay, I just sent the SPC7110 document to ipher1@gmail.com! (Ah, crap!
I really screwed that one up!) Sorry for the confusion I cause. I hope he gets the document now! I thought it said "ipher@gmail.com" and not "ipher1@gmail.com". Meh. I guess I read to fast. I'll want feedback on the SPC7110 document ASAP.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:27 pm

Stomping Nitrofish wrote:
grinvader wrote:
benden_dragon wrote:I am new member to the forums, but I have been reading these posts for a long time now. I promise I will not make the mistake other people have made (like a guy called "gaijinx1", don't know 'im, but I think he's a fool). I will never bug anyone about Zsnes and when it's coming out. I've been keeping up with Zsnes documentation though, and I know it's coming along very nicely. Keep up the good work, I know you can do it! If there's anything I can do to help, please let me know.
It's so funny I've fallen from my chair.
Gaijinx1, for the love of god, at least change your damn IP when you do something like this.

Either that, or do like Icecreamz: keep your old account and just say "ok i'll stop the shit now, sorry" and stop the shit for good.
HA! I can't believe that he actually did that. Incredible.

Back on topic... Shouldn't Radio get a credit, seeing as the design of the docs is based on the Zsnes.com design, which was created by him? i do not see his name in the credits section anywhere.

Actually, it's the second time he does that.

Yeah, I think Radio should have credit too, I only hope he really wants it anyway. He hasn't returned since his title was changed.

gaijinx1 · Post by **gaijinx1** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:52 pm

As far as the "Disable SPC Emulation" is, I think it might have to do with the way the SPC dumps sound. Either that, it might change the way the SPC calculates. I don't know for sure. I might do some more research.

illegal eagle · Post by **illegal eagle** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:56 pm

What's so difficult to understand? "Disable SPC Emulation" disables the emulation of the SPC700 chip.

gaijinx1 · Post by **gaijinx1** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:58 pm

Yeah, I was at some website just now and it said "this disables the SuperNES SPC processor. I was gonna say that but I had to do something else for a couple of minutes

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:01 pm

Joe Camacho wrote:
Stomping Nitrofish wrote:
grinvader wrote:
benden_dragon wrote:I am new member to the forums, but I have been reading these posts for a long time now. I promise I will not make the mistake other people have made (like a guy called "gaijinx1", don't know 'im, but I think he's a fool). I will never bug anyone about Zsnes and when it's coming out. I've been keeping up with Zsnes documentation though, and I know it's coming along very nicely. Keep up the good work, I know you can do it! If there's anything I can do to help, please let me know.
It's so funny I've fallen from my chair.
Gaijinx1, for the love of god, at least change your damn IP when you do something like this.

Either that, or do like Icecreamz: keep your old account and just say "ok i'll stop the shit now, sorry" and stop the shit for good.
HA! I can't believe that he actually did that. Incredible.

Back on topic... Shouldn't Radio get a credit, seeing as the design of the docs is based on the Zsnes.com design, which was created by him? i do not see his name in the credits section anywhere.
Actually, it's the second time he does that.

Yeah, I think Radio should have credit too, I only hope he really wants it anyway. He hasn't returned since his title was changed.

I also agree Radio should be credited.

xamenus · Post by **xamenus** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:23 pm

snkcube wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:
Stomping Nitrofish wrote:
grinvader wrote:
benden_dragon wrote:I am new member to the forums, but I have been reading these posts for a long time now. I promise I will not make the mistake other people have made (like a guy called "gaijinx1", don't know 'im, but I think he's a fool). I will never bug anyone about Zsnes and when it's coming out. I've been keeping up with Zsnes documentation though, and I know it's coming along very nicely. Keep up the good work, I know you can do it! If there's anything I can do to help, please let me know.
It's so funny I've fallen from my chair.
Gaijinx1, for the love of god, at least change your damn IP when you do something like this.

Either that, or do like Icecreamz: keep your old account and just say "ok i'll stop the shit now, sorry" and stop the shit for good.
HA! I can't believe that he actually did that. Incredible.

Back on topic... Shouldn't Radio get a credit, seeing as the design of the docs is based on the Zsnes.com design, which was created by him? i do not see his name in the credits section anywhere.
Actually, it's the second time he does that.

Yeah, I think Radio should have credit too, I only hope he really wants it anyway. He hasn't returned since his title was changed.
I also agree Radio should be credited.

Radio is in the credits: http://richardc.silohware.com/shared/credits.htm

Post by **grinvader** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:24 pm

illegal eagle wrote:What's so difficult to understand? "Disable SPC Emulation" disables the emulation of the SPC700 chip.

Note to gaijinx1: the SPC700 chip isn't like the SPC7110 - be careful !

To 1.4 documentation writers - you may want to remove Q&As about S-DD1 packs, S-DD1 logs and SPC7110 logs, as these are not used/made anymore. Sorry (and thanks) if you already did so.

kevman · Post by **kevman** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:28 pm

grinvader wrote:
illegal eagle wrote:What's so difficult to understand? "Disable SPC Emulation" disables the emulation of the SPC700 chip.
Note to gaijinx1: the SPC700 chip isn't like the SPC7110 - be careful !

To 1.4 documentation writers - you may want to remove Q&As about S-DD1 packs, S-DD1 logs and SPC7110 logs, as these are not used/made anymore. Sorry (and thanks) if you already did so.

Yeah, Richard used my modified FAQ and removed the SDD-1 packs questions. Oddly, he also removed my FAQ "I used Zsnes's auto-patching feature, and now the game doesn't work."

Post by **grinvader** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:27 am

kevman wrote:Oddly, he also removed my FAQ "I used Zsnes's auto-patching feature, and now the game doesn't work."

This should be in the FAQ, indeed.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:04 am

IceFox wrote:
snkcube wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:
Stomping Nitrofish wrote:
grinvader wrote:
benden_dragon wrote:I am new member to the forums, but I have been reading these posts for a long time now. I promise I will not make the mistake other people have made (like a guy called "gaijinx1", don't know 'im, but I think he's a fool). I will never bug anyone about Zsnes and when it's coming out. I've been keeping up with Zsnes documentation though, and I know it's coming along very nicely. Keep up the good work, I know you can do it! If there's anything I can do to help, please let me know.
It's so funny I've fallen from my chair.
Gaijinx1, for the love of god, at least change your damn IP when you do something like this.

Either that, or do like Icecreamz: keep your old account and just say "ok i'll stop the shit now, sorry" and stop the shit for good.
HA! I can't believe that he actually did that. Incredible.

Back on topic... Shouldn't Radio get a credit, seeing as the design of the docs is based on the Zsnes.com design, which was created by him? i do not see his name in the credits section anywhere.
Actually, it's the second time he does that.

Yeah, I think Radio should have credit too, I only hope he really wants it anyway. He hasn't returned since his title was changed.
I also agree Radio should be credited.
Radio is in the credits: http://richardc.silohware.com/shared/credits.htm

Excellent....

Richard C. · Post by **Richard C.** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:41 am

kevman wrote:
grinvader wrote:
illegal eagle wrote:What's so difficult to understand? "Disable SPC Emulation" disables the emulation of the SPC700 chip.
Note to gaijinx1: the SPC700 chip isn't like the SPC7110 - be careful !

To 1.4 documentation writers - you may want to remove Q&As about S-DD1 packs, S-DD1 logs and SPC7110 logs, as these are not used/made anymore. Sorry (and thanks) if you already did so.
Yeah, Richard used my modified FAQ and removed the SDD-1 packs questions. Oddly, he also removed my FAQ "I used Zsnes's auto-patching feature, and now the game doesn't work."

oops

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:57 am

snkcube wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:
Stomping Nitrofish wrote:
grinvader wrote:
benden_dragon wrote:I am new member to the forums, but I have been reading these posts for a long time now. I promise I will not make the mistake other people have made (like a guy called "gaijinx1", don't know 'im, but I think he's a fool). I will never bug anyone about Zsnes and when it's coming out. I've been keeping up with Zsnes documentation though, and I know it's coming along very nicely. Keep up the good work, I know you can do it! If there's anything I can do to help, please let me know.
It's so funny I've fallen from my chair.
Gaijinx1, for the love of god, at least change your damn IP when you do something like this.

Either that, or do like Icecreamz: keep your old account and just say "ok i'll stop the shit now, sorry" and stop the shit for good.
HA! I can't believe that he actually did that. Incredible.

Back on topic... Shouldn't Radio get a credit, seeing as the design of the docs is based on the Zsnes.com design, which was created by him? i do not see his name in the credits section anywhere.
Actually, it's the second time he does that.

Yeah, I think Radio should have credit too, I only hope he really wants it anyway. He hasn't returned since his title was changed.
I also agree Radio should be credited.

Can't believe I'm saying this, but, I also agree. But, I thought Radio's password got reset?

DEFIANT · Post by **DEFIANT** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:59 am

I also agree Radio should be credited.

~DEFIANT

xamenus · Post by **xamenus** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:23 am

illegal eagle wrote:What's so difficult to understand? "Disable SPC Emulation" disables the emulation of the SPC700 chip.

But what are the advantages of this feature? How does it affect the sound?

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:35 am

It, well, disables SPC emulation. It makes things faster, but tends to break things. One of the most famous examples is the character switch screen in Chrono Trigger.

ipher · Post by **ipher** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:58 am

gaijinx1 wrote:Okay, I just sent the SPC7110 document to ipher1@gmail.com! (Ah, crap!
I really screwed that one up!) Sorry for the confusion I cause. I hope he gets the document now! I thought it said "ipher@gmail.com" and not "ipher1@gmail.com". Meh. I guess I read to fast. I'll want feedback on the SPC7110 document ASAP.

ok, i got it and passed it along to Nach, when we get a little bit of free time we'll look over it

and don't worry about the ipher/ipher1 thing, 90% of the time i type in ipher@gmail.com then have to change it later...

illegal eagle · Post by **illegal eagle** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:35 pm

IceFox wrote:
illegal eagle wrote:What's so difficult to understand? "Disable SPC Emulation" disables the emulation of the SPC700 chip.
But what are the advantages of this feature? How does it affect the sound?

It's one processor less to emulate, so ZSNES will run faster. This is from the early days (ZSNES.D on 486 etc.), nobody should need it today.

And, like Noxious Ninja said, it'll break things because games might want to get data from the SPC700. (The equalizers in Star Ocean's sound player might get their data from that, dunno.)