Request: 512x448 Fullscreen in Windows

Zilog Jones · Post by **Zilog Jones** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:28 pm

Would it be possible to add this resolution to the Windows port? With the modern nvidia drivers (well, for my GF2 Ti anyway), you can add custom resolutions (well ones your monitor/card can handle) and I've successfully used 512x448 at 120Hz with other emulators (MAME, FCE Ultra, VirtuaNES, etc.). It won't let me add 256x224 (at 60 or 120Hz), and anyway that won't support the high-res modes. I think there's some program around for adding custom resolutions with ATI cards too.

Would this be possible? Or could it be made so the resolution is just registered in the config file by dimensions, so anything can be entered (as long as your PC can support it of course)? This worked for me with other emulators when they just had the height and width in the config file, but no listing of my custom res in the GUI.

Aerdan · Post by **Aerdan** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:22 am

I've added it to my 1.41 sources, but I'm going to test it before I go grab the needed files from CVS.

[EDIT: It would appear that my video card does not, in fact, support 512x448 fullscreen...]

Dead · Post by **Dead** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:12 am

Vareni Stargazer wrote:I've added it to my 1.41 sources, but I'm going to test it before I go grab the needed files from CVS.

[EDIT: It would appear that my video card does not, in fact, support 512x448 fullscreen...]

You wouldn't mind sharing your code with us, would you? We could let you know how it well it works for us.

To the original poster: Change your desktop to 512 x 448 x 16bit x 60Hz, then use 512 x 448 DR win in ZSNES. If you use 32-bit color and the HQ2x filter, you get slightly better color gradients than in 16-bit color.

If there WAS a 512 x 448 full screen mode in ZSNES, it would perform quite a bit better than in the equivalent windowed mode, in part because of the available option to use triple buffering. So, that's why it would be cool to be able to use custom resolutions with ZSNES.

Also, if you want to try using your custom resolution trick with SNES9x, you should create a 512 x 480 x 16bit x 60Hz mode, and tell SNES9x to stretch the image. For some reason SNES9x uses 512 x 480 as the native image resolution. As a result, certain games, such as Dragon Quest I & II, will display correctly.

Post by **pagefault** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:12 am

You need to hack an inf file to add the resolution, so you will have to reinstall your drivers. At least thats the only way I think you can do it. StretchMAME used to have instructions on adding custom resolutions.

Zilog Jones · Post by **Zilog Jones** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:05 am

With nvidia drivers, if you go to Display Properties -> Settings -> Advanced -> GeForce (whatever) -> Screen Resolutions & Refresh Rates, you can just add them. There's some sort of program for ATI cards for tweaking and overclocking and stuff (can't remember the name though) which will let you do the same thing.

There used to be a way of editing the registry to add resolutions, but it only works with much older cards/drivers, and possibly only in Win95/98.

Aerdan · Post by **Aerdan** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:02 am

well, it's in the 1.42 sources I have on file, but I still can't test it because DirectX wants to be an ass.

jm9843 · Post by **jm9843** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:53 am

Vareni Stargazer:

Do you think that it would be possible for ZSNESW to support all custom resolutions? And by that I mean all resolutions listed in the display adapter's driver..

This is a common need in the HTPC world where users need to compensate for overscan on their HDTVs. This is usually accomplished by adding a custom resolution via the Windows registry with a tool like PowerStrip (http://www.entechtaiwan.net/index.shtm).

I have the slightest bit of overscan w/ 640x480 but a perfect 856x480 for my widescreen HDTV.

Thanks for looking into this and let me know if you need help testing anything.

Aerdan · Post by **Aerdan** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:02 am

All right, here's the problem.

There is no way in hell I'm going to be adding more than one or two resolutions just for the HTPC crowd. you want your own resolutions, you go figure out how to add them yourself without breaking anything. The *sole* reason I was willing to add 512x448 Full at all was because this guy didn't say anything about how it might be 'easy' to implement. Capiche?

jm9843 · Post by **jm9843** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:05 pm

Vareni Stargazer wrote:All right, here's the problem.

There is no way in hell I'm going to be adding more than one or two resolutions just for the HTPC crowd. you want your own resolutions, you go figure out how to add them yourself without breaking anything. The *sole* reason I was willing to add 512x448 Full at all was because this guy didn't say anything about how it might be 'easy' to implement. Capiche?

There is some kind of a problem? News to me. This forum is called "Bug Reports/Feature Requests", isn't it?

A simple, "no, I won't be implementing that" would have sufficed. Life will go on regardless of the display modes supported by ZSNES.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:09 pm

jm9843 wrote:
Vareni Stargazer wrote:All right, here's the problem.

There is no way in hell I'm going to be adding more than one or two resolutions just for the HTPC crowd. you want your own resolutions, you go figure out how to add them yourself without breaking anything. The *sole* reason I was willing to add 512x448 Full at all was because this guy didn't say anything about how it might be 'easy' to implement. Capiche?
There is some kind of a problem? News to me. This forum is called "Bug Reports/Feature Requests", isn't it?

A simple, "no, I won't be implementing that" would have sufficed. Life will go on regardless of the display modes supported by ZSNES.

Do you see a "developer" tag on VS? That'll should answer your question. Also, he is known to be quite rude, don't worry about it.

jm9843 · Post by **jm9843** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:08 pm

Joe Camacho wrote: Do you see a "developer" tag on VS? That'll should answer your question. Also, he is known to be quite rude, don't worry about it.

Yeah, I noticed after the fact that he wasn't listed under the "People" section of the main page, as a either a "Main Coder" or a "Contributor".

Thanks for the heads up.

Aerdan · Post by **Aerdan** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 1:00 am

One does not need to be a developer or a 'main coder' to contribute to ZSNES.

From the ZSNES 1.41 changelog, under SDL:
- Updated video selection menu. (Thanks, Aerdan!) [ipher, Nach]

Aerdan == me.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 1:03 am

Vareni Stargazer wrote:One does not need to be a developer or a 'main coder' to contribute to ZSNES.

From the ZSNES 1.41 changelog, under SDL:
- Updated video selection menu. (Thanks, Aerdan!) [ipher, Nach]

Aerdan == me.

Yeah, I know, but he acted like if you were, making you somehow "part responsible" of listening to every request made on the board, I hope I made myself clear.

Aerdan · Post by **Aerdan** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 1:06 am

Joe Camacho wrote:
Vareni Stargazer wrote:One does not need to be a developer or a 'main coder' to contribute to ZSNES.

From the ZSNES 1.41 changelog, under SDL:
- Updated video selection menu. (Thanks, Aerdan!) [ipher, Nach]

Aerdan == me.
Yeah, I know, but he acted like if you were, making you somehow "part responsible" of listening to every request made on the board, I hope I made myself clear.

I'm aware of that. I was pointing out the fact that one doesn't need to be a dev or main coder to contribute to him. :p

Post by **grinvader** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:37 am

Vareni Stargazer wrote:I was pointing out the fact that one doesn't need to be a dev or main coder to contribute to him. :p

And it only requires half a brain to get a murderous urge after seeing the gl code...

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:14 pm

I think a better solution than constant requests for video modes would be to let the user enter a video mode they want and let them have it. DirectX allows you to querry modes ahead of time, so you will know if it is valid or not.

I'm not sure about DirectDraw, but D3D allows you to then use all the same drawing dimensions and buffer sizes and just apply it to any resolution.

So essentially, you can use any resolutions and color depth you want and D3D adapts whatever you are doing to it by itself for the most part.

Not to bring up the DD vs. D3D debate again, but the more I use D3D, the more I realize how helpful it can be to 2D applications.

m1t0s1s · Post by **m1t0s1s** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:38 am

advancemame + advancecab -- works when you can't use scitech display doctor.

To nightcrawler: Opengl r0ckz j00!!! heh.

Edit:
advancecab works by adding custom display resolutions to the registry, but zsnes still won't support them.

MaxSt · Post by **MaxSt** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:51 am

Nightcrawler wrote:DirectX allows you to querry modes ahead of time, so you will know if it is valid or not.

Nightcrawler wrote:So essentially, you can use any resolutions and color depth you want

Two sentences contradict each other.

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:09 pm

Ok.. any mode your card supports. Happy now?

ZSNES board

Request: 512x448 Fullscreen in Windows

Request: 512x448 Fullscreen in Windows

Support ALL custom resolutions?

advancemame + advancecab