DO NOT ASK FOR AVI OR WAV OUTPUT KTHX

Aerdan · Post by **Aerdan** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:43 am

We don't plan to implement any such features any time in the near future due to annoying bordering on moronic comments on the part of a certain individual here on the boards.

AntoineWG · Post by **AntoineWG** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:05 am

But what about wmv or wma output? I like DRM.
</sarcasm>

Post by **Agozer** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:52 pm

This should get pinned.

JAPPsmash · Post by **JAPPsmash** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:41 pm

Oh! now I see why you closed my thread guys. My bad.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:11 am

Agozer wrote:This should get pinned.

Yes it should.

Starman Ghost · Post by **Starman Ghost** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:13 am

JAPPsmash wrote:Oh! now I see why you closed my thread guys. My bad.

It's not you he's talking about, it's micheal flatley.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:03 am

Heh, I was watching the news the other night, and during one of the stories they aired, they interviewed someone named Dr. Michael Flatley, exact same spelling. I was like "Just.. Simply.. WTF..."

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:17 am

adventure_of_link wrote:Heh, I was watching the news the other night, and during one of the stories they aired, they interviewed someone named Dr. Michael Flatley, exact same spelling. I was like "Just.. Simply.. WTF..."

What were they taking about??? Maybe he is our M.F. .

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:19 am

I believe it was one of those Health sections on the news.

michael flatley · Post by **michael flatley** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:55 am

I love how I'm the only member of this board who has experience in avi output from several major games yet my valid and helpful advice is deemed annoying and moronic. I'm the only freaking member of this board who came up with all the info on how to do avi output with fraps that doesn't drop frames. What's the damn point of this thread anyway? My info has allowed the developers the freedom to NOT implement this feature because the same product can be produced with external software. Stop the incessant, mindless flames. Thanks.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:59 am

michael flatley wrote:I love how I'm the only member of this board who has experience in avi output from several major games yet my valid and helpful advice is deemed annoying and moronic.

If you're so experienced at this, why not take a look at the ZSnes code and deploy it yourself?

some annoying, moronic troll wrote:My info has allowed the developers the freedom to NOT implement this feature because the same product can be produced with external software.

Heh, judging by the content of this thread, it looks they've taken the freedom to NOT deploy this feature, holy shit.

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:25 am

Just leave him alone. Sheesh.

kieran_ · Post by **kieran_** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:06 pm

Listen...
To what the flower people say....
Listen...
It's getting louder everyday.....

Aerdan · Post by **Aerdan** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:14 pm

michael flatley wrote:I love how I'm the only member of this board who has experience in avi output from several major games yet my valid and helpful advice is deemed annoying and moronic. I'm the only freaking member of this board who came up with all the info on how to do avi output with fraps that doesn't drop frames. What's the damn point of this thread anyway? My info has allowed the developers the freedom to NOT implement this feature because the same product can be produced with external software. Stop the incessant, mindless flames. Thanks.

It's considered annoying and moronic because you always, ALWAYS bring fraps up whenever someone asks about video output. You also haven't contributed any code [at all] that would add such a feature to ZSNES. The problem, therefore, lies in you.

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:23 pm

That and you constantly say how easy it is to modify ZSNES when you can't do it yourself and present everything in an assnine way.

You could actually be a decent board member if you didn't come off as such an a-hole.

michael flatley · Post by **michael flatley** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:01 pm

Maybe I come off that way because you guys act like you know everything when in fact you don't? And you flame me for being stupid when the problem lies with you. I've never said features were easy to implement. I've said implementing features a certain way would be easier than implementing them another way. There is a huge difference here. If the feature is going to be developed with or without me then why is there a freaking problem in providing advice on how the feature should be implemented? This is done all the time by almost every member of this board. I haven't ever and will never code for ZSNES for several reasons. The primary reason is that although the emu is the best of its kind most of the developers/forum members here are total assholes to new members and members with valid advice.

Aerdan
The developers complained that this would be difficult to implement as an internal feature. ZMV to AVI conversion is now possible with fraps. Why is it my problem? I've left the issue alone for some time now yet people are still flaming me. I don't need the feature implemented, it works for me. Why would I contribute to ZSNES if not for my own good? To benefit the community, right? Well this community is rampant with jerks and mindless flamers. One new forum member posts a topic about avi output, the topic is locked by a mod, and now a whole new topic is created so flames can be directed my way. Sure, I'll spend my time contributing to ZSNES.

ThunderClaw · Post by **ThunderClaw** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:03 pm

michael flatley wrote:Maybe I come off that way because you guys act like you know everything when in fact you don't? And you flame me for being stupid when the problem lies with you. I've never said features were easy to implement. I've said implementing features a certain way would be easier than implementing them another way. There is a huge difference here. If the feature is going to be developed with or without me then why is there a freaking problem in providing advice on how the feature should be implemented? This is done all the time by almost every member of this board. I haven't ever and will never code for ZSNES for several reasons. The primary reason is that although the emu is the best of its kind most of the developers/forum members here are total assholes to new members and members with valid advice.

Aerdan
The developers complained that this would be difficult to implement as an internal feature. ZMV to AVI conversion is now possible with fraps. Why is it my problem? I've left the issue alone for some time now yet people are still flaming me. I don't need the feature implemented, it works for me. Why would I contribute to ZSNES if not for my own good? To benefit the community, right? Well this community is rampant with jerks and mindless flamers. One new forum member posts a topic about avi output, the topic is locked by a mod, and now a whole new topic is created so flames can be directed my way. Sure, I'll spend my time contributing to ZSNES.

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michael flatley · Post by **michael flatley** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:14 pm

Aerdan wrote:We don't plan to implement any such features any time in the near future due to annoying bordering on moronic comments on the part of a certain individual here on the boards.

I just read this post again and couldn't help but laugh. Here are the facts:

1) According to you this feature isn't being developed because of me.
2) I don't need the feature, I have fraps.
3) Others need the feature, they don't have fraps.

How is your logic working? The only way the above three facts make sense is as follows. The feature isn't being implemented (in the near future) because fraps is available and the developers don't think the feature is a major benefit to those without fraps. In this case it isn't my comments that are holding up avi output in ZSNES, it's the simple lack of willingness by the developers to implement the feature due to an existing tool doing the job.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:23 pm

Maybe I come off that way because you guys act like you know everything when in fact you don't?

I don't believe the guys act like they know everything. Some come off arrogent at times, but that doesn't mean they are oblivious to what the devs currently are focusing on.

I've said implementing features a certain way would be easier than implementing them another way.

Sure, but that doesn't make it any easier when doing it in actuality. You can implement a feature however way you want it, but it isn't easy... regardless of however simple a concept it is. It still takes time to implement, debug, and make sure it doesn't break something else. If you find it "easy" (or making it "sound easy"). the common response you will always get is "If it's so easy, why don't you implement it yourself?"

Comments like "this should be easy to fix" is not usually a tolerable thing to tell devs... Mind you that even if you are a dev... minor things like that will pop up anyhow and but should never been mentioned as "this should be easy to fix".. Same goes for "this should be simple to implement"

The primary reason is that although the emu is the best of its kind most of the developers/forum members here are total assholes to new members and members with valid advice.

It's completely dependent on the focus of what the devs want. They all have a direction.. and usually not the direction that most people want (which, they have given their reasons here and now). At the very least, they are committed to fixing and improving their emulation of the SNES.. and that's how it should be at the very least.

The developers complained that this would be difficult to implement as an internal feature. ZMV to AVI conversion is now possible with fraps. Why is it my problem?

Sure, something else can do the requested feature... that's what 3rd party tools are for. I'm not aware of the difficulty of implementing such a feature, but such a feature is something to do when there is really nothing better to do (in other words, this is really a low priority feature). Some programs (in this case emulators) like to differentiate themselves.. and that's great but if you ask for such a novelty feature... you shouldn't hold your breath...

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:29 pm

I just read this post again and couldn't help but laugh. Here are the facts:

1) According to you this feature isn't being developed because of me.
2) I don't need the feature, I have fraps.
3) Others need the feature, they don't have fraps.

Wow...

In response to 1... it's not being developed probably because it's not worth it (unless one day they decide to).

In response to 2, there isn't much reason to implement if there is a 3rd party tool that can do the job... is there? Just because there is a tool that does it, it doesn't mean the emulator needs to have something like that implemented.

In response to 3... when you say people need a feature that isn't really necessary for the functionality for the emulator.. you're completely wrong.

People use emulators to emulate their game. That's it. Being able to record a video of it would be a novelty feature. This would be implemented if the devs felt like it. There's no requirement for an emulator to record videos.. they are only supposed to emulate the game.

The developers didn't have to implement a savestate... it's a very useful feature though. The emulation doesn't become that much better or worse w/o this feature. (Although it has many other uses that warrent it such as bug testing, it's not needed for the emulator to function better or more proper.)

The developers HAD to implement a battery backup file (.srm).. it would be required to have functional saving ability in those games that use it.

Post by **grinvader** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:46 am

Nightcrawler wrote:present everything in an assnine way.

Best way to typo asinine ever.

BTW, flatley, how much of your Super Metroid run have you got ? 30% ? 50% ?

michael flatley · Post by **michael flatley** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:39 am

I agree with everything you said Deathlike2. Thanks for the clarification of my post. I'm sincerely trying not to be argumentative. If I've ever said a feature would be easy to implement what I truly meant to say was "it seems easy to program from my perspective" or "it would be easier doing it this way than that".

grinvader, I've restarted the run so many times I've lost count now. It is a run with savestates so it's not a run to compete with the likes of red scarlet or smokey. It will, however, blow away all current emulated runs. I know my previous pass at this run was faster than the current emulated record and my current run is at least 15 seconds faster than my old run. I'm currently at the high jump boots (not that this will be of much clarification, I'm taking a much different path than what anyone has done before) :O) I honestly believe I can get under 40 minutes while collecting all items but I can't say for sure. If you've seen the current 47 minute record you may wonder how I can cut off an additional 7 minutes but just wait and see. In addition to the run I also have many more surprises coming along with the vid.

Post by **grinvader** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:04 am

Great news. Can't wait to see the result... I'm wondering how radically different your route is, to achieve such shortcuts on a 100% run.

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:56 pm

grinvader wrote:
Nightcrawler wrote:present everything in an assnine way.
Best way to typo asinine ever.

That's what I get for not looking that word up. That's the way it should be spelled though.

Flatley:
Why do you stay here if you think everyone is a jerk and mindless flamer?

kieran_ · Post by **kieran_** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:01 pm

Jesus, these Micheal Flatley flame wars never stop. We should dedicate a forum to them or something.

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