Systems ZSNES will not be ported to

Player1 · Post by **Player1** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:03 pm

I have an idea. We could Zsnes fill out a short questionaire.

For example I am allowed to ask for roms yes/no
If yes is selected there should be shown a text like asking for roms is illegal.

You could make something for the 10 most annoying noob questions. would this be possible? I think it would be better than show a page with rules no one wants to read

Post by **Agozer** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:41 pm

Player1 wrote:I have an idea. We could Zsnes fill out a short questionaire.

For example I am allowed to ask for roms yes/no
If yes is selected there should be shown a text like asking for roms is illegal.

You could make something for the 10 most annoying noob questions. would this be possible? I think it would be better than show a page with rules no one wants to read

Uh, did you read the last few posts on page 1?

zoktar · Post by **zoktar** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:51 pm

ok this is just random noob thoughts, lets say that they are able to load a customized linux kernel into the psp, yay for alll, doesnt it come with an x86 emulator already? or is the asm more hardcore and bypasses any means of that type of emulator?, i recall linux having an x86 emulator for what it is used for i cant remember running wintendo now i cant check either and nowhere i can ssh to either, im afraid, but zsnes is my by far favorite snes emulator, and if that x86 linux emulator would infact interact with the written asm code in zsnes i would be very happy =), ok im sure iv missed alot of points here if anyone feels like showing me how impossible this is feel free, i like to learn =). cheers. sorry bout posting on the wrong threads im noob

sorry im talking about a psp port... or so....

Starman Ghost · Post by **Starman Ghost** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:57 pm

zoktar wrote:ok this is just random noob thoughts, lets say that they are able to load a customized linux kernel into the psp, yay for alll, doesnt it come with an x86 emulator already? or is the asm more hardcore and bypasses any means of that type of emulator?, i recall linux having an x86 emulator for what it is used for i cant remember running wintendo now i cant check either and nowhere i can ssh to either, im afraid, but zsnes is my by far favorite snes emulator, and if that x86 linux emulator would infact interact with the written asm code in zsnes i would be very happy =), ok im sure iv missed alot of points here if anyone feels like showing me how impossible this is feel free, i like to learn =). cheers. sorry bout posting on the wrong threads im noob

sorry im talking about a psp port... or so....

No. Emulators are very processor intesive. So running an emulator over an emulator would most likely be way to much for the 333mhz cpu of the psp to handle.

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:59 pm

No. You could install qemu, but it would be horribly slow. Even if you wrote a qemu core for the PSP processor, it would still be slow.

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:24 pm

Not being x86 based architecture can no longer be an answer to why ZSNES can't be ported when we see the next generation of consoles.

They will have enough processing power to emulate an x86 system AND run ZSNES on it.

PSP doesn't fall in this catagory though.

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:20 pm

You'll still need an emulator for non-x86 systems... then it becomes only an issue of file handling and controller input, I'd guess.

Post by **Nach** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:35 pm

Nightcrawler wrote:Not being x86 based architecture can no longer be an answer to why ZSNES can't be ported when we see the next generation of consoles.

They will have enough processing power to emulate an x86 system AND run ZSNES on it.

And we wouldn't even need to do anything because they'd be running an existing version in an x86 OS in their emulator on their console.

rlbond · Post by **rlbond** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:43 am

Add Playstation 2 to the list... It's a shame cuz SNES-Station sux...

Noxious Ninja wrote:We used to have a nice big thread on this. I guess it was lost in one of the crashes/hackings.

Anyway, this thread lists the systems/platforms that ZSNES will not be ported to. Post some, I'll edit them in.

Why will ZSNES never be ported to these systems? ZSNES is written largely in x86 assembler. This means that it will only run on x86 processors - computers using Intel, AMD, or VIA processors.

If you have a working knowledge of x86 assembler and/or C, and are willing to learn the internals of ZSNES to help make it portable, please post in the development forum.

Mac OS/PPC

The new Macs are using Intel processors. What about them?

Of course, who wants a mac anyway.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:57 am

rlbond wrote:Of course, who wants a mac anyway.

You haven't used a Mac before, right?

I <3 Ibooks and Powerbooks

rlbond · Post by **rlbond** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:08 am

Joe Camacho wrote:
rlbond wrote:Of course, who wants a mac anyway.
You haven't used a Mac before, right?

I <3 Ibooks and Powerbooks

only the crappy school ones, of course.

But without Counter-Strike and the other 90% of incompatible games, I'm not switching.
And one-button mice suck.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:03 am

rlbond: Just because Macintosh is going to go the way of the Intel, doesn't mean they'll use x86. For all you know, Intel may develop a special PPC CPU for it.
If anyone wants to correct me, feel free to do so.
PS: I went to my college today to get some stuff taken care of, and they got three Macs in the student lounge.

rlbond · Post by **rlbond** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:37 am

That's true.

And I mean the old crappy macs from high school.

Also, all their parts are proprietary. Why should I need a mac video card? And for the longest time you needed mac memory.

If they were compatible with most of the games out there, i might give one a try. But if i'm going to use another os, the first one will be linux.

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:26 pm

EDIT: Post retracted. I was off my rocker when I wrote that.

Thanks for the correction guys.

rlbond · Post by **rlbond** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:00 pm

http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2439
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1175
http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/s73uf ... hful.xhtml
http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/k4ZcJ ... Move.xhtml

or just http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=& ... earch+News

they're using x86 according to just about every tech site.

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:16 pm

Yeah. The new devkits run P4s.

patman? · Post by **patman?** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:11 am

Yes, Macs are going to use x86.

Now, this disappoints me, because for now, they don't, and I'm going to have a Powerbook when I go away to college. Now I'm going to have to use something other than ZSNES, and that makes me sad!

Hopefully, there's some good SNES emulators for OS X. I love OS X, and feel that it's far superior to Windows.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:16 am

patman? wrote:Yes, Macs are going to use x86.

Now, this disappoints me, because for now, they don't, and I'm going to have a Powerbook when I go away to college. Now I'm going to have to use something other than ZSNES, and that makes me sad!

Hopefully, there's some good SNES emulators for OS X. I love OS X, and feel that it's far superior to Windows.

There's snes9x for mac.

patman? · Post by **patman?** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:41 pm

Well, I don't even really like SNES9x for Windows, but I guess it's better than nothing.

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