Real kryptonite discovered in mine

lockharte · Post by **lockharte** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:22 am

or rather, sodium lithium boron silicate hydroxide

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6584229.stm

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:17 am

Hey, Superman can actually withstand it.

darkbenny · Post by **darkbenny** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:01 am

I don't think they will name it kryptonite though

Starman Ghost · Post by **Starman Ghost** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:19 am

darkbenny wrote:I don't think they will name it kryptonite though

Read the article. The mineral cannot be called kryptonite under international nomenclature rules because it has nothing to do with krypton - a real element in the Periodic Table that takes the form of a gas.

darkbenny · Post by **darkbenny** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:05 am

Starman Ghost wrote:
darkbenny wrote:I don't think they will name it kryptonite though
Read the article. The mineral cannot be called kryptonite under international nomenclature rules because it has nothing to do with krypton - a real element in the Periodic Table that takes the form of a gas.

that's what I meant, I read a similar article in yesterday's newspaper.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:02 am

supermanium?

PHoNyMiKe · Post by **PHoNyMiKe** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:16 am

this is stupid. it says the new superman movie said the name, big deal. if the original movie had this name so long ago then it would have been cool. the movie producers pry had some idiots look on the internet for crystals and just piece together a name that might actually be close to what kryptonite is supposed to be (definately some sort of silicate.)

Clements · Post by **Clements** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:57 pm

A new mineral matching its unique chemistry - as described in the film Superman Returns - has been identified in a mine in Serbia.

"The new mineral does not contain fluorine (which it does in the film) and is white rather than green but, in all other respects, the chemistry matches that for the rock containing kryptonite."

Yo BBC, check this Carbonite I found - it is identical to the stuff in Star Wars that Han Solo was frozen in, but does not contain carbon and is brown instead of silver, but, in all other respects, the chemistry matches carbonite.

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:51 pm

it's possible that the name was produced from the list of ingredients found in superman III. it was never given a chemical name then.

i don't know if singer was that devoted, though.

Starman Ghost · Post by **Starman Ghost** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:27 am

Clements wrote:
A new mineral matching its unique chemistry - as described in the film Superman Returns - has been identified in a mine in Serbia.
"The new mineral does not contain fluorine (which it does in the film) and is white rather than green but, in all other respects, the chemistry matches that for the rock containing kryptonite."
Yo BBC, check this Carbonite I found - it is identical to the stuff in Star Wars that Han Solo was frozen in, but does not contain carbon and is brown instead of silver, but, in all other respects, the chemistry matches carbonite.

Yeah, I read that too, but I didn't really register at the time.

Post by **badinsults** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:20 am

What would be far more impressive if they found a mineral that included Krypton in its structure. Ah, noble gases.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:27 am

phOnYmIkE wrote:this is stupid. it says the new superman movie said the name, big deal. if the original movie had this name so long ago then it would have been cool. the movie producers pry had some idiots look on the internet for crystals and just piece together a name that might actually be close to what kryptonite is supposed to be (definately some sort of silicate.)

Kryptonite's not supposed to be anything other than green, crystalline, and mildly radioactive.

lockharte · Post by **lockharte** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:49 am

badinsults wrote:What would be far more impressive if they found a mineral that included Krypton in its structure. Ah, noble gases.

krypton difluoride

Neo Kaiser · Post by **Neo Kaiser** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:15 am

badinsults wrote:What would be far more impressive if they found a mineral that included Krypton in its structure. Ah, noble gases.

I had never seen a compound of noble gases either. Maybe because their atoms are complete and have all the electrons for each proton.

Post by **badinsults** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:28 am

lockharte wrote:
badinsults wrote:What would be far more impressive if they found a mineral that included Krypton in its structure. Ah, noble gases.

krypton difluoride

Not a mineral.

Jikmo · Post by **Jikmo** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:47 am

Neo Kaiser wrote:
badinsults wrote:What would be far more impressive if they found a mineral that included Krypton in its structure. Ah, noble gases.
I had never seen a compound of noble gases either. Maybe because their atoms are complete and have all the electrons for each proton.

That's a pretty naive way of looking at it, but it's mostly true. I'd go into what I know about it, but it's just from AP Chem, so that's not going to be very much. You'd be better off reading about it on Wikipedia.

Anyway, there are a few known compounds of noble gases. Xenon for instance forms compounds relatively easily (easily for a noble gas at least)

cas · Post by **cas** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:53 am

badinsults wrote:
lockharte wrote:
badinsults wrote:What would be far more impressive if they found a mineral that included Krypton in its structure. Ah, noble gases.

krypton difluoride
Not a mineral.

Doesnt matter, its still in my toothpaste. Gotta keep those superman gum diseases at bay, for up to 12 hours!

Post by **grinvader** » Wed May 02, 2007 6:41 pm

Neo Kaiser wrote:
badinsults wrote:What would be far more impressive if they found a mineral that included Krypton in its structure. Ah, noble gases.
I had never seen a compound of noble gases either. Maybe because their atoms are complete and have all the electrons for each proton.

Actually, a lot of compounds were isolated as soon as we toyed a bit with them - mostly halides (or derivatives), of course. The rawr halogens pack makes things easier. Iirc they even got oxides.

Noble gas oxydation levels aren't infinitely high, after all. Just badass high.

lockharte · Post by **lockharte** » Wed May 02, 2007 8:22 pm

chemistry rocks.

grinvader, btw, did you ever take orgo or pchem?

Rashidi · Post by **Rashidi** » Sun May 06, 2007 3:34 pm

why do they add "-ium" or "-nite" in the mineral name?

or mine would be "Rashidinite" or "Rashidium"

PHoNyMiKe · Post by **PHoNyMiKe** » Sun May 06, 2007 4:54 pm

or maybe rashithead lol j/k

but seriously, I like the sound of rashithead.

Post by **grinvader** » Tue May 08, 2007 6:39 pm

Rashidi wrote:why do they add "-ium" or "-nite" in the mineral name?

or mine would be "Rashidinite" or "Rashidium"

-ium is a common suffix for pure elements. It's also the default suffix before a custom name is chosen for new elements (which is <number in pseudolatin>ium, e.g. 111 == unununium).

-ite is a mineral-typical suffix. Most mixed ores are *-ites. It's just an easy way to categorize stuff.
Although, don't confuse them with biological infections (also ending in -ite).

lockharte wrote:grinvader, btw, did you ever take orgo or pchem?

I took all the chems I know about. Org/inorg/phys/bio/radio/ana come to mind. Some phys-er, bio-er and math-er stuff for kicks. Why ?