Is this stuff legal

Bean · Post by **Bean** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:12 pm

I was on google looking for ROMs for this ZSNES and I came upon ConsoleClassix.com. They say their's is legal so does that make everyother one illegal? Also just saying at ConsoleClassix it costs money for snes games. You can play atari and nes for free and some of them are cool.

kieran_ · Post by **kieran_** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:15 pm

I think Zsnes endorses ConsoleClassix, as far as I know...

Post by **Nach** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:18 pm

Bean wrote:I was on google looking for ROMs for this ZSNES and I came upon ConsoleClassix.com. They say their's is legal so does that make everyother one illegal? Also word of advice don't go there because it costs money to play the snes games.

It's perfectly legal and we endorse them. And please don't give out bad advice. Don't expect to get such a nice service like that for free.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:49 pm

Or, you can search E-Bay for SNES games you want, as well as a dumper/copier, and dump your games to your computer. This is provided that you don't use your dump and your cartirdge at the same time.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:29 pm

Bean wrote:I was on google looking for ROMs for this ZSNES and I came upon ConsoleClassix.com. They say their's is legal so does that make everyother one illegal? Also word of advice don't go there because it costs money to play the snes games.

There was a time, when you had to pay for snes games.

Bean · Post by **Bean** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:37 am

Dang... when you download ROMs is that legal? Because some have a warning that say don't download unless you have a copy of it. So I don't download those.

Orn · Post by **Orn** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:42 am

As far as i understand, it's illegal even if you own it.

Oblivion · Post by **Oblivion** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:47 am

The only legal ROMs are those that have been dumped from your original cartridge, no more than once, as a backup copy, and provided that the original cartridge is still in your possession. Of course, dumpers are now considered illegal under the DMCA, but eh. Who cares about that anyways?

Bean · Post by **Bean** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:53 am

HUH??? and not to mention your signature says everything I say is a lie. Also if it is illegal what happens if your caught. In fact why are there even emulators on the internet if all this is illegal?

Oblivion · Post by **Oblivion** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:57 am

Emulators are perfectly legal. Making your own backup of a copyrighted game is legal, so long as you do not distribute it in any way, shape, or form. If you get caught they take down whatever ROM site of yours they decided to shut down. Think harder about my signature. I'm not going to say more on it, except that the answer involves the letter, "x."

Bean · Post by **Bean** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:29 am

does anyone here know how to make your own ROM then so it's legal.

MisterJones · Post by **MisterJones** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:43 am

Get a dumper.

Cloud Strife · Post by **Cloud Strife** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:53 am

Wait a second! If the games are copyrighted, why aren't the actual systems? Or are they? I know they're illegal and almost everyone, no, everyone of my friends has 'em, I guess for the sake of keeping non sucky old school games (ala Chrono Trigger) alive. Until they release a legit Final Fantasy compilation for the Gamecube, no way I'll stop. A good FF collection would be all Famicom releases redone, then FF IV, V, VI, and VII. All that could fit on a Gamecube disc fine.

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:05 am

Cloud Strife wrote:Wait a second! If the games are copyrighted, why aren't the actual systems?

Patented, maybe.

Copyrighted? Our legal system isn't that corrupted. The BIOS is copyrighted, but you can't copyright hardware.

HunterKiller_ · Post by **HunterKiller_** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:40 am

It was once legal to download ROMs if you owned the original cartidge.
But i saw an article on http://www.fruit.com ages ago about the legalization of ROM downloading.
It said stuff about these games are no longer in production or used for profit.

Edit: ROFLS! wtf? Why is fruity site (CR) censored as fruity site??? lololol

Starman Ghost · Post by **Starman Ghost** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:59 am

HunterKiller_ wrote:It was once legal to download ROMs if you owned the original cartidge.
But i saw an article on http://www.fruity site (CR).com ages ago about the legalization of ROM downloading.
It said stuff about these games are no longer in production or used for profit.

Edit: ROFLS! wtf? Why is fruity site (CR) censored as fruity site??? lololol

Because you are not allowed to post rom sites?

Downloading roms is illegal. Period.

If you want to dump your own roms get a snes copier/dumper and make them yourself. Only then is it legal.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:03 am

Uhh HunterKiller_, as of now, only Public Domain (PD) ROMs are legal to download.
PS: Didn't I suggest the dumper/copier about a few posts back?

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:45 am

HunterKiller_ wrote:It was once legal to download ROMs if you owned the original cartidge.
But i saw an article on <insert place> ages ago about the legalization of ROM downloading.
It said stuff about these games are no longer in production or used for profit.

Edit: ROFLS! wtf? Why is <insert place> censored as fruity site??? lololol

Why the fuck did you post a ROM site?

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:30 am

snkcube wrote:
HunterKiller_ wrote:It was once legal to download ROMs if you owned the original cartidge.
But i saw an article on <ROM SITE> ages ago about the legalization of ROM downloading.
It said stuff about these games are no longer in production or used for profit.

Edit: ROFLS! wtf? Why is fruity site (CR) censored as fruity site??? lololol
Why the fuck did you post a ROM site?

Because he obviously read the rules and wants to get banned.

Post by **grinvader** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:08 pm

This is so pathetic it makes my head hurt. It makes me wonder how old some users are here. I never saw anyone that gullible.

Malcster · Post by **Malcster** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:43 pm

Oblivion wrote:Of course, dumpers are now considered illegal under the DMCA, but eh. Who cares about that anyways?

I thought there'd been some change recently that allowed copier devices which had some legal purpose to be sold and stuff.. some exemption from the DMCA? Hence now you can (I think) sell copiers on ebay.

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:46 pm

Malcster wrote:
Oblivion wrote:Of course, dumpers are now considered illegal under the DMCA, but eh. Who cares about that anyways?
I thought there'd been some change recently that allowed copier devices which had some legal purpose to be sold and stuff.. some exemption from the DMCA? Hence now you can (I think) sell copiers on ebay.

You are now allowed to crack the encryption on "obsolete" computer systems.

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:14 pm

Noxious Ninja wrote:
Malcster wrote:
Oblivion wrote:Of course, dumpers are now considered illegal under the DMCA, but eh. Who cares about that anyways?
I thought there'd been some change recently that allowed copier devices which had some legal purpose to be sold and stuff.. some exemption from the DMCA? Hence now you can (I think) sell copiers on ebay.
You are now allowed to crack the encryption on "obsolete" computer systems.

It's both a blessing and a curse that U.S. law is based on interpretation of the law.

Dolphin · Post by **Dolphin** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:21 am

If Nintendo would make its own emulators easy to get and make its own dumpers very hard to get but possible, then Nintendo will make so much money, by selling there emulators. Once other free emulators popup, all they have to do is create a new very cool game with new hardware features and just add it to their emulator or make "chip addons" to their systems. Or make dumpers with a function to break itself so after about 10copies, it would break itself or scramble all of its programable rom. Then they resselll to same people make lots of money

Microsoft makes lots of money because of lots of programs that make it easier to do illegal stuff. E.g. Windows media player burns music CD's, copy's music CD's, Napster came out for Microsoft Windows, and also other, more and more programs came out that make it easier to do illegal things and the're all built for Microsoft. Thats why Microsoft is so successfull. Its even possible to downlaod MS windows

in other operating systems they are more secure, or too secure to make programs that make illegal stuff easier, or its not as easy on to make such programs on other operating systems

Thus in order to succeed very well in business one must "contribute silently" to the makeing of illegal stuff. or just make really really good stuff.

HunterKiller_ · Post by **HunterKiller_** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:25 am

Oh... errr... hey im noobie here ok. Sorry.

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