A game doesn't work:( (seiken densetsu3 english version)

maramail · Post by **maramail** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:02 am

A Japeness rpg game calll seikendensetsu3 (made by Square), doesn't work anymore in zsnes 1.4. It use to be ok on the old version

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:14 am

This is in the wrong section of the forum. And the game works correctly. Please post your rom specs.

Starman Ghost · Post by **Starman Ghost** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:04 am

Yes, the game works fine. There is obviously something screwy with your rom.

HunterKiller_ · Post by **HunterKiller_** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:11 am

Uh huh, works fine on my machine too.

maramail · Post by **maramail** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:00 pm

I means "seiken densetsu 3(eng version)", not others.
It works well on snes9x and old zsnes.And I promise that nothing wrong with my roms.

Clements · Post by **Clements** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:33 pm

Try soft patching a clean Japanese rom.

maramail · Post by **maramail** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:44 pm

Clements wrote:Try soft patching a clean Japanese rom.

I repeat

It works well on old zsnes and snes9x,And IT IS WELL WITHOUT ANY ERROR.

I PROMISE.

maramail · Post by **maramail** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:48 pm

1:It is a good game, It works on snes9x and zsnes several years ago.
2:It haven't corrupt.
3:It works on snes9x now,also old zsnes

Don't blame THE rom corruption.

I will going to test if it is MDK rpm version's error.though I thing it is nearly impossible

Clements · Post by **Clements** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:06 pm

maramail wrote:
Clements wrote:Try soft patching a clean Japanese rom.
I repeat

It works well on old zsnes and snes9x,And IT IS WELL WITHOUT ANY ERROR.

I PROMISE.

Er, bad roms can be broken in newer releases. My soft-patched clean Seiken Desentsu 3 works flawlessly in ZSNES 1.40 and beyond, therefore there is no bug in ZSNES. The problem lies in your unidentified (and presumably bad) rom.

Do as I said previously and it will work. You may have to add/remove headers from patches/roms to get it working.

Post by **Agozer** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:16 pm

Do post the NSRT output of the unaltered japanese rom image.

http://www.nsrt.edgeemu.com

maramail · Post by **maramail** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:30 pm

Er, bad roms can be broken in newer releases. My soft-patched clean Seiken Desentsu 3 works flawlessly in ZSNES 1.40 and beyond, therefore there is no bug in ZSNES. The problem lies in your unidentified (and presumably bad) rom.

Do as I said previously and it will work. You may have to add/remove headers from patches/roms to get it working.

I tested, It doesn't works on zsnes 1.4 win version.
And I use the 1.36. And it works.I think it haven't broken yet.
It have already patched before I get it and I don't know how to undo the patch.

maramail · Post by **maramail** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:45 pm

It is there anything i can do except using the old version or fix the rom ?

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:17 pm

What other options do you think there would be?

kieran_ · Post by **kieran_** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:32 pm

maramail wrote:It is there anything i can do except using the old version or fix the rom ?

Scan the rom with nsrt. http://www.nsrt.edgeemu.com

The people who have replied here know a good deal about emulation. If it was a good rom, then it would work in all versions. Scan the rom give us the information.

Post by **Agozer** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:13 pm

Just because a game works in some version of the emulator and doesn't have any visible graphical or sound errors, doesn't mean that it's a good rom image.

DOLLS (J) [!] · Post by **DOLLS (J) [!]** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:59 pm

maramail: Don't be so obnoxious, people arouond here are much more literate than you about em... most likely any subject.

I suggest that a thread be made explaining the necessary benefits of NSRT verification, with a catchy title of course.

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:35 pm

c61746961 wrote:maramail: Don't be so obnoxious, people arouond here are much more literate than you about em... most likely any subject.

I suggest that a thread be made explaining the necessary benefits of NSRT verification, with a catchy title of course.

/me starts work on his new document immediately

It shall be titled "NSRT: Verifying ROMs for fun and profit".

DOLLS (J) [!] · Post by **DOLLS (J) [!]** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:39 pm

* yays in a very high pitched voice

Post by **Agozer** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:45 pm

I honestly can't think of having a SNES rom image collection without the aid of NSRT anymore. I was once lost, but then saw the light.

Astxist · Post by **Astxist** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:54 pm

Agozer wrote:I honestly can't think of having a SNES rom image collection without the aid of NSRT anymore. I was once lost, but then saw the light.

Amen.

Astxist

kieran_ · Post by **kieran_** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:27 pm

Agozer wrote:I honestly can't think of having a SNES rom image collection without the aid of NSRT anymore. I was once lost, but then saw the light.

What are the advantages of NSRT over Goodsnes?

Post by **grinvader** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:17 pm

NSRT only focuses on correct rom dumps. Checksum verification (chksum, crc32, md5), packing (zip, gzip, bzip2, jma), and lots of features to identify/fix your rom (revision number, overdump detection, various rom fixes...)

GoodSNES includes all SNES roms EVER made accessible, including but not limited to:
bad dumps
interleaved dumps
overdumps
prepatched roms
PD roms
hacks

If you only care about the [!] ones, ditch goodsnes and use nsrt. Besides, nsrt is full of nice karma.

NSRT: better than sex and way, way cheaper
(shamelessly ripped from the Whirlpool)

Neo Kaiser · Post by **Neo Kaiser** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:45 pm

Agozer wrote:Do post the NSRT output of the unaltered japanese rom image.

http://www.nsrt.edgeemu.com

Does this tuns into a ROM site or my Browser got hijacked?

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:49 pm

Wrong link.

The right one is:

http://nsrt.edgeemu.com/

kevman · Post by **kevman** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:51 pm

Huh. Looks like that site was designed to capatilize on errors like that.