finishing Star Ocean

MasterThief_Locke · Post by **MasterThief_Locke** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:49 pm

umm. i was just wondering when star ocean will be complete thanx

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kieran_ · Post by **kieran_** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:15 pm

The only replies that you will get here are from angry nerds who will make a pun on your name and will generally flame you.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:00 pm

Hey ChocolateThief_Locke, how's about you learn the dang japanese language and do it yourself?

darkbenny · Post by **darkbenny** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:28 pm

It's already a pretty good translation...

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:30 pm

I wish Darkforce would just declare DeJap officially dead already on the main page, whether it is or isn't, just to stop these kinds of questions!

Post by **Agozer** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:07 pm

Nightcrawler wrote:I wish Darkforce would just declare DeJap officially dead already on the main page, whether it is or isn't, just to stop these kinds of questions!

Yeah, I have to agree with you.

What is the matter, people do not appreciate the hard work they've done so far (since, at one point it looked like SO was never going to get translated) and always ask for Final versions? It's not like there are huge chunks of untranslated dialogue or anything.

Oblivion · Post by **Oblivion** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:10 pm

Hell, it's called the Final Version 1.0 (although supposedly one day there will be a 2.0 Final). I beat the game well before that version came out, and had no problems. *Concurs with Nightcrawler and Agozer*

The Sage Of Time · Post by **The Sage Of Time** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:55 pm

I'm curious..
How complete "is" the SO translation? I mean, what is there missing from it exactly?
I've been meaning to try out SO for a long time, but I never was clear on this.
I do however, get the impression for all intents and purposes it's a "complete" translation. Is that right?

kevman · Post by **kevman** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:59 pm

The Sage Of Time wrote:I'm curious..
How complete "is" the SO translation? I mean, what is there missing from it exactly?
I've been meaning to try out SO for a long time, but I never was clear on this.
I do however, get the impression for all intents and purposes it's a "complete" translation. Is that right?

The only thing I know of is that they wanted to do the voiceovers into English.

Post by **Agozer** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:00 am

kevman wrote:
The Sage Of Time wrote:I'm curious..
How complete "is" the SO translation? I mean, what is there missing from it exactly?
I've been meaning to try out SO for a long time, but I never was clear on this.
I do however, get the impression for all intents and purposes it's a "complete" translation. Is that right?
The only thing I know of is that they wanted to do the voiceovers into English.

The Yes/No dialog boxes are untranslated as well the last time I checked.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:11 am

And, IIRC, Tomato said that the text that was made into the patch was not as polished as he would like it to be, so he wanted it to polish it some more.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:12 am

The Star Ocean translation is better than nothing. Just enjoy it as it is.

Tomato · Post by **Tomato** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:49 am

Joe Camacho wrote:And, IIRC, Tomato said that the text that was made into the patch was not as polished as he would like it to be, so he wanted it to polish it some more.

Cidolfas was in charge of all the final polishing, though I do feel we kept too close to the original. But I'm still 100% OK with leaving it as it is. As far as I know, the only things that needed to be done were the Yes/No bubbles - which was kinda hard since that was graphics pack stuff, and possibly voices, which I was no longer in charge of but I know work had sorta picked back up on it maybe a year ago. And maybe fixing whatever bugs were found. And maybe some formatting. But other than that the actual translation itself is fine. It's not professional quality, but still plenty fun, right?

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:23 am

Tomato wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:And, IIRC, Tomato said that the text that was made into the patch was not as polished as he would like it to be, so he wanted it to polish it some more.
Cidolfas was in charge of all the final polishing, though I do feel we kept too close to the original. But I'm still 100% OK with leaving it as it is. As far as I know, the only things that needed to be done were the Yes/No bubbles - which was kinda hard since that was graphics pack stuff, and possibly voices, which I was no longer in charge of but I know work had sorta picked back up on it maybe a year ago. And maybe fixing whatever bugs were found. And maybe some formatting. But other than that the actual translation itself is fine. It's not professional quality, but still plenty fun, right?

Oh yes it is, it definitely is, sorry to bother you.

That's what I remember, the game is pretty good as it is.

xamenus · Post by **xamenus** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:52 am

Nightcrawler wrote:I wish Darkforce would just declare DeJap officially dead already on the main page, whether it is or isn't, just to stop these kinds of questions!

Speaking of the home page, someone needs to update the link to the Dejap forum on the Dejap site. It now takes you to the development forum, which explains why there have been a couple of Dejap related posts there.

Cidolfas · Post by **Cidolfas** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:22 am

Link's fixed. Thanks for the tip.

I actually have a PHP system made for people to record their voice clips and upload them. However, there's a recent bug discovered in the way Apache treats PHP scripts which makes it easy for a hacker to delete any file that PHP has access to. I need to find some kind of workaround that before I can put it up (for stuff besides the voice work, too).

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:49 am

Cidolfas wrote:However, there's a recent bug discovered in the way Apache treats PHP scripts which makes it easy for a hacker to delete any file that PHP has access to. I need to find some kind of workaround that before I can put it up (for stuff besides the voice work, too).

Oy, that sounds bad. Where could I find more information about that?

Post by **Nach** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:51 am

Nightcrawler wrote:I wish Darkforce would just declare DeJap officially dead already on the main page, whether it is or isn't, just to stop these kinds of questions!

WHAT?!?!?!

And not release the little project I'm doing for him?

Post by **Nach** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:53 am

Noxious Ninja wrote:
Cidolfas wrote:However, there's a recent bug discovered in the way Apache treats PHP scripts which makes it easy for a hacker to delete any file that PHP has access to. I need to find some kind of workaround that before I can put it up (for stuff besides the voice work, too).
Oy, that sounds bad. Where could I find more information about that?

Well, PHP can't create a file unless it has write permission to a directory.
Once PHP has write access to the directory...

Cidolfas · Post by **Cidolfas** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:20 am

Exactly. -_- There's a large chunk of RPGClassics.com that relies on that as well. We need to find some way to protect against it or the entire kit and caboodle is useless.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:37 am

Tomato wrote: It's not professional quality, but still plenty fun, right?

Nonsense. Compared to Breath of Fire 2, it's QUITE professional.

kieran_ · Post by **kieran_** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:06 pm

Nach wrote:
Nightcrawler wrote:I wish Darkforce would just declare DeJap officially dead already on the main page, whether it is or isn't, just to stop these kinds of questions!
WHAT?!?!?!

And not release the little project I'm doing for him?

What is this project?

Post by **Nach** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:07 pm

Stomping Nitrofish wrote:
Nach wrote:
Nightcrawler wrote:I wish Darkforce would just declare DeJap officially dead already on the main page, whether it is or isn't, just to stop these kinds of questions!
WHAT?!?!?!

And not release the little project I'm doing for him?
What is this project?

A project I and others here have been flamed multiple times for.

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:29 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:
Tomato wrote: It's not professional quality, but still plenty fun, right?
Nonsense. Compared to Breath of Fire 2, it's QUITE professional.

A 12 year old's Mario Brothers hack with mario's penis is more professional than that steaming pile of crap translaion for Breath of Fire 2!

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:35 pm

Tomato wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:And, IIRC, Tomato said that the text that was made into the patch was not as polished as he would like it to be, so he wanted it to polish it some more.
Cidolfas was in charge of all the final polishing, though I do feel we kept too close to the original. But I'm still 100% OK with leaving it as it is. As far as I know, the only things that needed to be done were the Yes/No bubbles - which was kinda hard since that was graphics pack stuff, and possibly voices, which I was no longer in charge of but I know work had sorta picked back up on it maybe a year ago. And maybe fixing whatever bugs were found. And maybe some formatting. But other than that the actual translation itself is fine. It's not professional quality, but still plenty fun, right?

I haven't played through the Star Ocean patch, but I did play through Tales of Phantasia and thought a few too many liberties were taken there.

So, I wouldn't worry too much about sticking closer to the original.
TOP's script came out a little over the top as opposed to a professional script in my opinion, but of course TOP's script was done in an uncontrolled non corporate enviroment, so that's to be expected I guess.