Looking to get this working :(

aki · Post by **aki** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:12 am

I have successfully joined games in the past with friends, but I've never been able to host a game. I do not have virus protection, a firewall, or a router hooked up, so the stickies haven't helped me.

The friend I'm trying to play with has a router, and says he tried everything the stickies said, but has had no luck.

We both got zbattle, and although we managed to somewhat connect through that, much to our dismay, when we went to play, all it did was throw us back on the original netplay ZSNES screen, where we were stuck in the first place.

I hate to ask him to keep trying new things, considering the ZSNES thing is my idea in the first place, so here's what's going on when I try to host a game.

I typically go to start a server, and it gets stuck at "WAITING FOR CLIENT...". Rarely, it says it found the client, but then it just sits there and does nothing.

Again, I have no firewall or router, and I use Windows XP. If anyone has a clue as to what the problem could be, it'd be much appreciated.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:21 am

First off, why don't you have an anti-virus program on your computer ?

http://www.free-av.com is your friend, use it.

Next, http://www.lavasoft.de http://www.safer-networking.org http://www.mozilla.com/products/firefox/ and http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com are your friends, use those too.

Next, why are you not using XP SP2 ?

Lastly, www.whatismyip.com is your friend if you are using a broadband service (even the modem they provide you can be considered as a router.) Report back the IP ir gives you.

aki · Post by **aki** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:30 am

I probably should have an anti-virus program, but I'm not especially concerned with that at the moment. I do use Firefox, I do use ad-aware, and I do have SP2.

My IP is 70.37.156.34. To my knowledge, this isn't a "router" IP address.

Edit: I thought I would mention that I have tried 1.36, 1.42, and 1.42n.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:32 am

Are you using Dialup or broadband ?

Also:

aki wrote:I probably should have an anti-virus program, but I'm not especially concerned with that at the moment.

You should be especially concerned about that, because if you're not careful, you'll probably get your system screwed up real bad you'll have to reinstall windows.

AntoineWG · Post by **AntoineWG** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:57 am

Are you sure the XP firewall is not enabled? If it wasn't, the Security Center would bitch constantly unless you specifically told it to ignore the fact that you don't have automatic updates enabled, a firewall and an antivirus program.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:29 am

I did a tracert on that IP, and it is confirmed he has broadband. Cable service from Adelphia to be exact.

So, like I said before, the modem is probably acting as your router/firewall. First open a command prompt (start -> Run -> in the box type cmd.exe and click OK) then find out the Gateway IP of the modem by typing ipconfig and look at the default gateway field. You should be able to get in (for example, assuming the gateway is 192.168.1.1) using your browser. Type http://192.168.1.1 (or http://<your gateway IP here>) into the browser, and you should be able to go from there.

aki · Post by **aki** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:05 am

I do have cable from Adelphia, yeah. I don't know a thing about my modem acting as a router or a firewall. I've already tried putting my gateway IP into my browser, it just says nothing can be found.

Again, Windows firewall is not active, I don't have a virus scanner, and automatic updates are on. Do you want a screen shot to "prove" this? :\

You should be especially concerned about that, because if you're not careful, you'll probably get your system screwed up real bad you'll have to reinstall windows.

I'm not too worried about that, as I have a second hard-drive with all my stuff should something ever go wrong. Thanks for your concern and quick responses, though.

Are you guys as stumped as I am?

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:40 am

What's the brand of your modem ?

Unfortunately tracerts can't tell you these sort of things

aki · Post by **aki** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:54 am

It's a Motorola SB5100. I looked some stuff up on it, I didn't read anything about it having a firewall, but I didn't do that extensive of a search.

Edit: After looking into it a little more, I found out 192.168.100.1 opened "SURFboard" configuration, however there is virtually nothing on the whole page that I can even change. The only thing I can even do on the page is reset my modem.

I read some posts about it and multiple people have said that it doesn't have a firewall, and although it can connect up to 32 people, that it's for LAN, and this modem isn't an actual router, which makes sense because there's no where I could put a second cable into the back of it.

SquareHead · Post by **SquareHead** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:17 pm

aki wrote:It's a Motorola SB5100. I looked some stuff up on it, I didn't read anything about it having a firewall, but I didn't do that extensive of a search.

Edit: After looking into it a little more, I found out 192.168.100.1 opened "SURFboard" configuration, however there is virtually nothing on the whole page that I can even change. The only thing I can even do on the page is reset my modem.

I read some posts about it and multiple people have said that it doesn't have a firewall, and although it can connect up to 32 people, that it's for LAN, and this modem isn't an actual router, which makes sense because there's no where I could put a second cable into the back of it.

I have the same cable modem, and I cant claim its the modem causing you trouble unless your cable company modified it in some way. As far as I know I can confirm this modem has no firewall. Is there a possibility that your cable provider filters caertain traffic?

aki · Post by **aki** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:57 pm

I've never heard of Adelphia doing that. I can host games/servers on everything but ZSNES, and I've never really had any other trouble getting things on the internet to work. But I don't know for absolutely certain. :/

I'd call Adelphia, but they usually have someone with a really strong accent for tech support, and I'm REALLY bad at understanding people as it is, let alone accents. :/ I also don't really know what I'd be needing to ask them. I was hoping I'd be able to work it out without them.

AntoineWG · Post by **AntoineWG** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:44 pm

Try using TCP only on both ends. They may be blocking UDP.

And I know I'm beating a dying horse, but YOU'RE FRIGGIN STUPID IF YOU DON'T HAVE A ROUTER OR FIREWALL AND ANTIVIRUS. YOU'RE ASKING FOR UNPLEASANTNESS IN GREAT ABUNDANCE. I wouldn't be surprised if there was already some kind of mal/ad/spy/shitware/exploit that's causing this problem and God knows what else.

aki · Post by **aki** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:03 pm

AntoineWG wrote:Try using TCP only on both ends. They may be blocking UDP.

And I know I'm beating a dying horse, but YOU'RE FRIGGIN STUPID IF YOU DON'T HAVE A ROUTER OR FIREWALL AND ANTIVIRUS. YOU'RE ASKING FOR UNPLEASANTNESS IN GREAT ABUNDANCE. I wouldn't be surprised if there was already some kind of mal/ad/spy/shitware/exploit
that's causing this problem and God knows what else.

We have tried using TCP. I can't even get a game launched, it's not a problem with he and I connecting.

Secondly, I came here for some help with ZSNES, not to be insulted over the fact I don't have an anti-virus program installed. Unless you actually think there's a virus I somehow contracted that's purpose is to not allow me to create a ZSNES server, then I don't see how this is related.
And I already said I check for spyware, malware, and adware.

I don't have that many issues with my computer, and I'm not stupid as to what I do on the internet. I've been using it since I was about 7. I know what to look out for. Matter of fact, it's safe to say I'm relatively paranoid about downloading things or what sites I visit.

That aside, any other ideas on what this could be? To restate everything:

I've used ZSNES 1.36, 1.42, and 1.42n. I've been able to play online with other people hosting. I have Windows XP with SP2, I have Adelphia Cable Internet, I don't have a router and I don't have a firewall.

When I go to start a server, it just says "Waiting for client...", and occasionally will say "Found client.", but then it stays there.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:29 pm

I admit to starting the anti-virus jihad... but I did it in the nicest way possible.

Also you said you checked for adware/spyware/malware... but not viruses.

Like Antoine said, there's probably a virus inside your machine affecting ZSNES, and probably something else.

Also, I've done a Yahoo! search of your modem brand+port forwarding, and it seems like there is no way to port forward this thing, because it's not a router/firewall. Apparently other people are also having problems with this thing..

Another thing, is it appaears SB5100 has been discontinued by motorola... way for companies to reel you in with obsolete equipment

aki · Post by **aki** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:39 pm

adventure_of_link wrote:I admit to starting the anti-virus jihad... but I did it in the nicest way possible.

Also you said you checked for adware/spyware/malware... but not viruses. Like Antoine said, there's probably a virus inside your machine affecting ZSNES, and probably something else.

Also, I've done a Yahoo! search of your modem brand+port forwarding, and it seems like there is no way to port forward this thing, because it's not a router/firewall. Apparently other people are also having problems with this thing..

Another thing, is it appaears SB5100 has been discontinued by motorola... way for companies to reel you in with obsolete equipment

I haven't ran a virus check in a while. If you honestly think that it could be a virus, I'll do so.

Adelphia supplied me with this modem when my old one started shitting out on me. I guess I got shasted.

If a virus check doesn't work, I guess I'll think about trying out a new modem. They're usually really anal about it, though. They like to insist that they install it themselves and stuff. :/

AntoineWG · Post by **AntoineWG** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:18 pm

In all likelihood, the modem itself is fine. All it does is act as a bridge between 2 different networks, just like an analog modem, DSL modem or any other kind of modem. Whatever comes in on the cable side of it is passed to the ethernet side, except for the control protocols. Either Adelphia is blocking something, Windows is screwed up or you're doing something wrong with ZSNES.

You said it's not a problem with the two of you connecting. So you are establishing a connection with ZSNES? And it crashes when you try to load a game or what?

I have an SB5120 that I bought at Walmart for like $65 and I've never had a problem with port forwarding anything, even the stuff that most providers will block, like HTTP and FTP .

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Sorry for the berating speech about protection, but I do a lot of cleanup work for people who think exactly the way you do. The problem may be overhyped by the software vendors, but the threat is indeed very real. I'm not saying a virus is definitely the cause of your problems, but it is a very distinct possibility.

aki · Post by **aki** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:34 pm

What happens is I go to start a server, before he even tries to connect to it, and I can't. It just says "Searching for client..." or whatever, rarely gets to "Found client.", and if it does, it just sits there afterwards. I never get to the Chat thing. It never crashes.

How exactly do you port forward with a modem like this? I got to the "SURFboard" page, but there's no where to actually do anything other then reset it.

AntoineWG · Post by **AntoineWG** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:44 pm

There is no port forwarding with that modem. If your computer's IP address (the one reported by ZSNES) matches the one reported by sites like ipchicken.com, you're fully exposed to everything the internet is throwing at you and you don't need to forward anything.

Are you giving him the right address and does he have a router?

aki · Post by **aki** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:49 pm

Alright, I ran a virus scan, found a couple things, I got rid of them, ZSNES still doesn't work.

I didn't figure there was any port forwarding. The IP address does match.

I do give him the right address, he does have a router, he's done all the port forwarding stuff he said, nothing seems to help him be able to host.

I don't know anything about his problem, but for me, it's not even a problem with him joining, I don't think. Isn't the "Chat" window supposed to pop up after it finds the client? It never does for me.

Maybe if I knew how it was supposed to work, I'd have a better idea...

You go to start a server, a window comes up and says "Waiting for client...". After that, it says "Found client."

From there, it does nothing. Is that when he's supposed to try and join?

If so, then I guess it's a problem with us connecting. But I thought he was supposed to join after that Chat window shows up, the one where you pick who's what player and whatnot. If that's the case, then it's just something with me trying to make a server.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:57 pm

iirc the chat window automagically pops up in ZSNES 1.42n

Also, you guys may want to try different ports, try 6464 or something.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:57 pm

Have you tried.. Loading a game? It's been a while, but I think you have to load the game after that.

aki · Post by **aki** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:10 pm

Using 1.42n, it gets stuck at "Waiting for client..."

Using 1.42, it still gets stuck at "Waiting for client..."

Using 1.42n and/or 1.42 with port 6464, it gets stuck at "Waiting for client..."

When trying to load a game at "Waiting for client...", nothing happens. I haven't been lucky enough to see the "Client found." yet to try loading a game then.

However, I'm 99% sure my friends load games after we get to the Chat screen, which I cannot get to, as I'm stuck at waiting for client. ;p

Edit: I also just tried all those combanations with TCP as opposed to UDP, no dice.