Can anyone help me?

IloveSteph · Post by **IloveSteph** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:47 pm

I am having problems with *OGG directshow filter.* Everytime I go into my second drive, it takes about 60% of the resources to my whole computer, I have almost 2 gigs of ram and a 2.8 processor, and it lags things down. But, i never download it. And, it likes to run while certain programs run too. How do i delete it?

paulguy · Post by **paulguy** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:19 am

uh, i never knew ogg directshow filter was a program that ran all the time. Looks like you have a virus trying to tell you that's what it is. In actuality, OGG is a container often used with the Vorbis audio compression codec. Similar to MP3 but superior to it in the fact that it sounds better and it's free.

SquareHead · Post by **SquareHead** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:38 am

I think paulguy is right. I remember reading about someone packing a virus with a codec pack. You may want to run a good virus scanner (maybe even in safe mode) and see if it will clean it out.

IloveSteph · Post by **IloveSteph** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:51 am

Well, it wasn't a virus. I don't get virus or spyware, well, usually don't. I haven't gotten a virus in almost 2 years, and spyware I get once in a while. I have an aggressive firewall and virus/spyware protection.

Here is what it was in case someone else wants to know.

It was a codec pack i downloaded. Though it wasn't anything to do with OGG but it was acutally AVI. And for some reason, the OGG directshow filter was with it. I had to delete the codec pack, and that fixed it.

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:56 am

paulguy wrote:uh, i never knew ogg directshow filter was a program that ran all the time. Looks like you have a virus trying to tell you that's what it is. In actuality, OGG is a container often used with the Vorbis audio compression codec. Similar to MP3 but superior to it in the fact that it sounds better and it's free.

last time i checked, LAME was free

Tallgeese · Post by **Tallgeese** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:12 am

sweener2001 wrote:
paulguy wrote:uh, i never knew ogg directshow filter was a program that ran all the time. Looks like you have a virus trying to tell you that's what it is. In actuality, OGG is a container often used with the Vorbis audio compression codec. Similar to MP3 but superior to it in the fact that it sounds better and it's free.
last time i checked, LAME was free

I'm more interested in knowing who came up with the idea that OGG is somehow innately superior to MP3. Because they are liars.

SquareHead · Post by **SquareHead** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:23 am

Metatron wrote:I'm more interested in knowing who came up with the idea that OGG is somehow innately superior to MP3. Because they are liars.

?

Tell me more.

Tallgeese · Post by **Tallgeese** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:35 am

Both are lossy codecs. They both lose some aspect of the original sound based on whatever encoding settings you use. Calling one or the other 'superior' is not exactly sensible and is almost always based on personal preference, frankly.

When was the last time you paid for an MP3? Heh.

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:18 pm

Ogg Vorbis(Ogg is a contatiner format, Vorbis is the audio codec) achieves or exceeds the same quality as MP3 VBR in less space.

MP3 is covered by several patents, and if you use it commerically, you need to pay a license fee.

Vorbis is royality free and isn't covered by any patents.

Demios · Post by **Demios** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:12 pm

uninstall all your codecs and install this thingy here http://www.cccp-project.net/

Tallgeese · Post by **Tallgeese** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:33 am

funkyass wrote:Ogg Vorbis(Ogg is a contatiner format, Vorbis is the audio codec) achieves or exceeds the same quality as MP3 VBR in less space.

MP3 is covered by several patents, and if you use it commerically, you need to pay a license fee.

Vorbis is royality free and isn't covered by any patents.

2 and 3 are of course true, but honestly from an end-user standpoint nobody should really care about that. Heck, if those are valid points I could quote MP3 being so insanely widespread as a format advantage.

The space difference between the two is negligible with HD space being as relatively cheap as it is these days. I'll be stunned if any normal human can readily hear the quality difference you describe during normal listening without it being a result of placebo... I mean, you make fine points, but do they really matter to anybody except the psychotic audiophile, at which point they might as well use FLAC?

Then again, maybe the Vorbis encoders have really gotten incredulously better over the years... eh.

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:52 am

last time i checked LAME was free.

even with royalties kicking in for commercial use, i think that point still stands as far as anyone here is concerned.

i've heard that *.ape is the better lossless codec. is there any truth to that?

Tallgeese · Post by **Tallgeese** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:08 am

I'm not really too well versed in lossless, so...

Here, try this page:

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php ... comparison

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:02 pm

seems that flac is better than ape.

i was wondering because i haven't seen audio flac torrents, but i've nabbed two ape ones.

not that i use lossless anyway. i can hear a bit of a difference between a 128 AAC and the actual cd, but not enough to care.