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Yes I know I'm a dumb bully, but I can be even dumer!!

Post by PHoNyMiKe »

no not me silly, but this guy:



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I was gonna post a poll so you asshats who voted for him could confess your sins anonymously, but you can't in general nonsense.

I watched a few minutes of his speech, what a fucking joke. all I heard was "goals" and "accomplishment" and "iraq is causing all the blood shed" and how "I think we'll be successful." successful at what? what the fuck is america doing in iraq? does anybody know? my best guess is he wants to make iraq into a tiny america, and take all the credit for when it grows up and starts contributing to the world. haha yeah right like that'll ever happen.

he acts like we must continue to rape iraq, like it'll make a difference and protect iraq (someday within this century.) you can't go into somebody's front yard and start fucking up their lawn without their permission. and when asked to stop by the neighbors you continue with the reasoning "can't stop now, I've already come this far, so I gotta keep fucking it up!" then when they try to throw you out into the street you pull out a gun and kill them, and continue fucking up their lawn.

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When Saddam was in charge of Irak, we could blame him for the violence and the killings, but now USg and the "new democratic elected government" in Irak, who are we going to blame?
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It's Iraq
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darkbenny wrote:It's Iraq
Not in Spanish. Sorry.
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Joe Camacho wrote:When Saddam was in charge of Irak, we could blame him for the violence and the killings, but now USg and the "new democratic elected government" in Irak, who are we going to blame?
The moron who put them in charge. Bush is in a lose-lose situation unless things go right. Certainly it isn't "soon".
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Deathlike2 wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:When Saddam was in charge of Irak, we could blame him for the violence and the killings, but now USg and the "new democratic elected government" in Irak, who are we going to blame?
The moron who put them in charge. Bush is in a lose-lose situation unless things go right. Certainly it isn't "soon".
The USg should just get out of there, and let all of them kill themselves. They have been fighting for decades, they won't change just because Uncle Sam tells them to.
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Joe Camacho wrote:
darkbenny wrote:It's Iraq
Not in Spanish. Sorry.
ahhh my bad I have no spanish skills
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Joe Camacho wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:When Saddam was in charge of Irak, we could blame him for the violence and the killings, but now USg and the "new democratic elected government" in Irak, who are we going to blame?
The moron who put them in charge. Bush is in a lose-lose situation unless things go right. Certainly it isn't "soon".
The USg should just get out of there, and let all of them kill themselves. They have been fighting for decades, they won't change just because Uncle Sam tells them to.
Perhaps. I don't think that helps either way of the other world's perception of our arrogence. Now we would then also be tagged as cowards. If we stay there, we're stupid. You know, we lose-lose either way if nothing changes.
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Deathlike2 wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:When Saddam was in charge of Irak, we could blame him for the violence and the killings, but now USg and the "new democratic elected government" in Irak, who are we going to blame?
The moron who put them in charge. Bush is in a lose-lose situation unless things go right. Certainly it isn't "soon".
The USg should just get out of there, and let all of them kill themselves. They have been fighting for decades, they won't change just because Uncle Sam tells them to.
Perhaps. I don't think that helps either way of the other world's perception of our arrogence. Now we would then also be tagged as cowards. If we stay there, we're stupid. You know, we lose-lose either way if nothing changes.
The thing is.. I guess the USg needs to "repair" all the stuff that was lost in the war, but if you leave all that civilian personnel, they would be an easy target for terrorists and rebels, so they need to be guarded by militar forces, which in turn just makes more people mad.

I think it would be better if the USg just leaves a huge pack of bricks and cement (Because giving them a check would be stupid) and tell the people of Irak to reconstruct themselves, heh.

I don't really think no international voice will call the USg cowards (Except the radical islamic, but they like to badmouth the USg whenever they can, so it doesn't matter) but the international rating of the USg would go up. I don't know if the US appreciation rating would increase though.
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Joe Camacho wrote:The thing is.. I guess the USg needs to "repair" all the stuff that was lost in the war, but if you leave all that civilian personnel, they would be an easy target for terrorists and rebels, so they need to be guarded by military forces, which in turn just makes more people mad.
Having soldiers in Iraq is not the problem, as long as they just protect and don't try to influence the local politics.
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Joe Camacho wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:When Saddam was in charge of Irak, we could blame him for the violence and the killings, but now USg and the "new democratic elected government" in Irak, who are we going to blame?
The moron who put them in charge. Bush is in a lose-lose situation unless things go right. Certainly it isn't "soon".
The USg should just get out of there, and let all of them kill themselves. They have been fighting for decades, they won't change just because Uncle Sam tells them to.
Perhaps. I don't think that helps either way of the other world's perception of our arrogence. Now we would then also be tagged as cowards. If we stay there, we're stupid. You know, we lose-lose either way if nothing changes.
The thing is.. I guess the USg needs to "repair" all the stuff that was lost in the war, but if you leave all that civilian personnel, they would be an easy target for terrorists and rebels, so they need to be guarded by militar forces, which in turn just makes more people mad.

I think it would be better if the USg just leaves a huge pack of bricks and cement (Because giving them a check would be stupid) and tell the people of Irak to reconstruct themselves, heh.

I don't really think no international voice will call the USg cowards (Except the radical islamic, but they like to badmouth the USg whenever they can, so it doesn't matter) but the international rating of the USg would go up. I don't know if the US appreciation rating would increase though.
After the mess the US has made there, if they're going to leave they should first uhm... band the army the disbanded? (not sure if it's said that way) and the national police. Because all they're leaving right now are 8 governors that hate themselves, and they're all either fundamentalists or fanatics. They just sent Iraq back 80 years.
I agree with the reconstruction made by themselves. Although very unlikely (not to say impossible), the US should just give them back EVERYTHING that they gave to foreing companies back to the Iraqis, and get the fuck outta there.
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Post by darkbenny »

oh but wait george Bush said America can win the war in Iraq
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The only solution to this is for Bush to commit an honor suicide, live.
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Post by Tallgeese »

Honestly, the current war in Iraq is unsupportable because it is being painted as a charity.

I say fuck that, we should have actually proved the "BLOOD FOR OIL' people right and seized it for ourselves. Lord knows that'd be a more equitable payment for our soldiers' lives.
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I WANNA BE BLAK IN IRAK
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Funny how everyone forgets most of the Dems voted for sending troops to Iraq, too. Sure, go ahead and blame Bush if you want. But you're going to have to blame most of Congress, Dems and Republicans, for going along with it.
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jtrevor99 wrote:Funny how everyone forgets most of the Dems voted for sending troops to Iraq, too. Sure, go ahead and blame Bush if you want. But you're going to have to blame most of Congress, Dems and Republicans, for going along with it.
Dude, If Bush hadn't asked Congress for permission for the Irak war, they wouldn't had to vote in the first place.

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Isn't it still true that congress never declared war? We cannot be at war because in the U.S., Congress must declare war. Instead, Bush was granted special powers he never should have gotten. Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken. Politics are not my strongest area, but that's how I understand it.
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we haven't had an official war since WWII
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sweener2001 wrote:we haven't had an official war since WWII
That's what I thought. Something is seriously wrong with that...
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Joe Camacho wrote:
jtrevor99 wrote:Funny how everyone forgets most of the Dems voted for sending troops to Iraq, too. Sure, go ahead and blame Bush if you want. But you're going to have to blame most of Congress, Dems and Republicans, for going along with it.
Dude, If Bush hadn't asked Congress for permission for the Irak war, they wouldn't had to vote in the first place.

:lol:
Yeah, and if Congress hadn't approved it (and overwhelmingly, I might add), there wouldn't have been a war.
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jtrevor99 wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:
jtrevor99 wrote:Funny how everyone forgets most of the Dems voted for sending troops to Iraq, too. Sure, go ahead and blame Bush if you want. But you're going to have to blame most of Congress, Dems and Republicans, for going along with it.
Dude, If Bush hadn't asked Congress for permission for the Irak war, they wouldn't had to vote in the first place.

:lol:
Yeah, and if Congress hadn't approved it (and overwhelmingly, I might add), there wouldn't have been a war.
And be labeled a hater of america for letting the terrorists win by doing nothing right after 9-11? I think there was a whole lot of pressure involved at that time, and Bush knew it.



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Post by casualsax3 »

Well that was pressure for a war in Afghanistan, which was seemingly justified.
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Post by Neo Kaiser »

Also most people think that the USA presence in Iraq was unnecessary because Iraq was quiet at the time.
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