Dawn of Mana is coming.....

Mark57Raider · Post by **Mark57Raider** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:26 pm

http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q1-2007/032607a.html

here's more info on it. I just hope it's nothing like Children of Mana.... (what, with a score system?)

Jipcy · Post by **Jipcy** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:06 pm

Thanks for the update. I'm really looking forward to this game. Secret of Mana is one of my favorite games.

Louis Cypher · Post by **Louis Cypher** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:37 pm

I'm iffy on Dawn of Mana, especially since they made it chapter based and reset your skills/levels/etc at the beginning of each chapter.

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:59 am

Secret of mana is a really good game, but it's impossible to beat on one player.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:02 am

Mike wrote:Secret of mana is a really good game, but it's impossible to beat on one player.

Are you smoking something? I've been this game many many many times on one player.

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:09 am

It was impossible for me to beat the first boss on one player. I needed my friends help.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:18 am

Mike wrote:It was impossible for me to beat the first boss on one player. I needed my friends help.

The first boss is a joke. This simply means you haven't mastered the basics of this game.

blackmyst · Post by **blackmyst** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:43 am

Bah. The Mana games have always been a great example of how 2D can outshine 3D, and now look what they're doing.

It's become yet another detail-less flat looking assortment of polygons like just about every other 3D game up till now. Bah, I say.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:47 am

blackmyst wrote:Bah. The Mana games have always been a great example of how 2D can outshine 3D, and now look what they're doing.

That is usually a symptom of management/development/reviewers/marketing/etc. thinking 3D is "the solution" to spice up a game.

clessoulis · Post by **clessoulis** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:10 am

To bad the games horriable. I played the import and its just so bad. The controls are so over fustrating. It baffles me why they just didnt use the kingdom hearts 2 battle engine instead of making the half ass engine in dawn.

soulmata · Post by **soulmata** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:11 am

Deathlike2 wrote:
Mike wrote:It was impossible for me to beat the first boss on one player. I needed my friends help.
The first boss is a joke. This simply means you haven't mastered the basics of this game.

re: Mike

You have got to be shitting me

I've beaten that game playing hardcore (never having the entire party die, not even once) using only 2 characters, not spending any time levelling.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:20 am

IRC wrote:[Deathlike2] the only way to fail in SOM...
[Deathlike2] 1) not use magic, ever
[Deathlike2] 2) swing your weapon when you are not at 100%
[Deathlike2] 3) just walk into the enemy, like they were Barney

darkbenny · Post by **darkbenny** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:11 am

doesn't jema automatically revive you if you die vs the mantis ant? therefore, isn't it almost impossible to lose?

blackmyst · Post by **blackmyst** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:24 am

But you're talking to the zboard prince here. He's special.

Starman Ghost · Post by **Starman Ghost** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:33 am

You guys seem to be missing the main problem of his statement. Look closer...

Mike wrote:It was impossible for me to beat the first boss on one player. I needed my friends help.

You only have one character at this point, there is no two player yet.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:43 am

Starman Ghost wrote:You guys seem to be missing the main problem of his statement. Look closer...
Mike wrote:It was impossible for me to beat the first boss on one player. I needed my friends help.
You only have one character at this point, there is no two player yet.

You can certainly hand the controller off the another person...

Although, the most funny part about the first battle... you cannot lose this battle. You get auto-revived on death, so even if you suck so much, you will win. This is failure of the ultimate kind.

lockharte · Post by **lockharte** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:15 am

eh, i don't care about any new mana games, unless if they remade sd3.

soulmata wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote:
Mike wrote:It was impossible for me to beat the first boss on one player. I needed my friends help.
The first boss is a joke. This simply means you haven't mastered the basics of this game.

re: Mike

You have got to be shitting me

I've beaten that game playing hardcore (never having the entire party die, not even once) using only 2 characters, not spending any time levelling.

you realize you are talking to most likely, a middle schooler, about beating the first boss of a children's fantasy game

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:21 am

lockharte wrote:eh, i don't care about any new mana games, unless if they remade sd3.

That game should be ported, if not just to have an official translation. The game doesn't need to have another set of ultimate equipment because that is a sure way to add stupidity to an almost balanced game.

Starman Ghost · Post by **Starman Ghost** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:25 am

Deathlike2 wrote: You can certainly hand the controller off the another person...

I don't think that really counts. If that is how it is, every game is 2-player, 3-player, 456736-player, etc....

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:43 am

Starman Ghost wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote: You can certainly hand the controller off the another person...
I don't think that really counts. If that is how it is, every game is 2-player, 3-player, 456736-player, etc....

I think you are missing what I was saying. That was my interpretation of his statement. I think what he said was that he couldn't beat the first boss on his own, so he asked his friend to beat it for him.

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:42 am

Deathlike2 wrote:
Mike wrote:It was impossible for me to beat the first boss on one player. I needed my friends help.
The first boss is a joke. This simply means you haven't mastered the basics of this game.

Maybe he meant the next boss?

Otherwise... maybe the game keeps a counter somewhere, giving Jema only a limited number of revives.

256 or so...

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:28 pm

Deathlike2 wrote:
lockharte wrote:eh, i don't care about any new mana games, unless if they remade sd3.
That game should be ported, if not just to have an official translation. The game doesn't need to have another set of ultimate equipment because that is a sure way to add stupidity to an almost balanced game.

Good point. I almost completely forgot this game has never received an official translation(thank god for fan translations). How about instead of giving us second rate bullshit and pass it off as a Mana game, they officially release a GOOD mana game they've hid in the closet all these years?

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:06 pm

I knew I should have worded myself better. I don't mean the first boss as in the one where you have no party and it's impossible to lose. I'm talkin' about the first boss after one of the girls join the party. Hence needing my friends help, so he can play as the girl. Oh yeah, sorry I'm not as good as you guys in this game, I didn't think that would be a problem though.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:10 pm

Mike wrote:I knew I should have worded myself better. I don't mean the first boss as in the one where you have no party and it's impossible to lose. I'm talkin' about the first boss after one of the girls join the party. Hence needing my friends help, so he can play as the girl. Oh yeah, sorry I'm not as good as you guys in this game, I didn't think that would be a problem though.

The sprite is not a girl. The boss you are referring to is still relatively easy.

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:14 pm

Ok and? I needed help. If I'm not as good as you guys in the game then o.k. what's the point? It wasn't a girl sprite, then i don't know what it is, and I really don't care, but who ever it was I needed someone to play as that sprite to help me win.