Support ending for Windows XP SP1

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:40 am

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6123975.html

Say goodbye to SP1 on Tuesday.

Jipcy · Post by **Jipcy** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:17 am

Well that's good. They didn't end support for 98 and ME too soon.

Out of curiosity, what happens if someone installs a fresh copy of Windows 98 SE? Is there any official update service for them anymore, even if there aren't any new updates?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:36 am

If you're not running the latest service pack for any MS OS, you might as well screw yourself.

Jipcy, I'm fairly sure they will still provide updates... just nothing new. On the other hand, if you're using Win98SE, you may want to get that unofficial 98SE service pack that includes a nice mod to bring the bland look of Win98SE to Win2k levels.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:56 am

windows update is still there for old win98 users... (possibly even still have it for win95 if it ever existed for win95) but they state on the windows update main page that they are no longer releasing new updates and that they recommend you upgrade your o/s

Post by **Agozer** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:16 pm

I just installed SP2 a few days ago. It took nearly 90 minutes. :/

What's this SP2 TCP/IP connection fix I keep coming across on various sites?

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:22 pm

windows xp limits the max half open tcp/ip ports to 10 and this can have a negative impact... there are fixes out there hat can a) return it to win 9x style or b) manually choose the max number of half opened tcp/ip ports

Post by **odditude** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:34 pm

franpa wrote:windows update is still there for old win98 users... (possibly even still have it for win95 if it ever existed for win95) but they state on the windows update main page that they are no longer releasing new updates and that they recommend you upgrade your o/s

Windows Update does still exist and work for Win95; however, you have to install IE5 to be able to use it. The issue there is Microsoft no longer provides IE5 - you have to find it elsewhere (and THAT is a pain in the ass).

Post by **Agozer** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:05 pm

franpa wrote:windows xp limits the max half open tcp/ip ports to 10 and this can have a negative impact... there are fixes out there hat can a) return it to win 9x style or b) manually choose the max number of half opened tcp/ip ports

Got any links? I also read something that certain fixes for this issue doesn't make it go away, because Microsoft hardcoded the connection limit into TCPIP.SYS.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:02 pm

the latest bitcomet can do it for you... but uh im busy working on how to use linux

so i dont have the bookmark to what i use for it...

the thing is hard coded but the program i use disables wfp then backup then replace the tcpip.sys file.

Jipcy · Post by **Jipcy** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:34 pm

Agozer wrote:I just installed SP2 a few days ago.

Really? Wow. Why'd you wait so long?

I highly recommend slip-streaming service packs into your XP installation CD. Then do a format and re-install. Makes things much easier/cleaner. If/when SP3 comes out, I plan on doing the same thing. (And now that IE7 is nearly done, I think SP3 may be closer in the future).

Post by **Agozer** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:14 pm

Jipcy wrote:
Agozer wrote:I just installed SP2 a few days ago.
Really? Wow. Why'd you wait so long?

Just didn't feel like installing it. Really. That's all there is to it.

franpa: Would that be BitComet 0.74?

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:54 pm

Dudes, do I need an original windows xp pro cd in order to slip-streaming a cd?

Jipcy · Post by **Jipcy** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:11 pm

Joe Camacho wrote:Dudes, do I need an original windows xp pro cd in order to slip-streaming a cd?

I think I detect a hint of sarcasm in there. Just follow the article from TackTech. I don't know the details.

Post by **Agozer** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:23 pm

The new BitComet was kind enough to patch TCPIP.SYS to allow more half open connections. Yay.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:26 pm

Jipcy wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:Dudes, do I need an original windows xp pro cd in order to slip-streaming a cd?
I think I detect a hint of sarcasm in there. Just follow the article from TackTech. I don't know the details.

It says I need an original cd, then again, they might just say it because they don't want any troubles.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:43 pm

Joe Camacho wrote:
Jipcy wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:Dudes, do I need an original windows xp pro cd in order to slip-streaming a cd?
I think I detect a hint of sarcasm in there. Just follow the article from TackTech. I don't know the details.
It says I need an original cd, then again, they might just say it because they don't want any troubles.

I think it is a suggested requirement, but Service Packs update all system components (if you use the huge install package).. so I don't think it's an issue. I could be wrong.

http://www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsX ... ootcd.html - if you read a portion of it.. sometimes it may just be required (OEM cds after all have special alterations).