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sweener2001 wrote:what? i've heard they get motion sick. i know for a fact that mgs guy does.
I think he's sick of the implicationt aht FPS is all the 360 has.


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sweener2001 wrote:that's not the point. the point is calling the attempt lame. debate the point.
My point is that the game won't be helping MS that much, thus, is a lame attempt. For example, Nintendo tried the same thing at a past E3 with Pac-Man VS. The game was their "surprise" announcement, but was such a huge let-down. It was an attempt to sell more GameCubes and GBAs for their connectivity stuff. Of course, the game didn't help Nintendo sell more GameCubes. This is similar to what MS is trying to do in Japan.

If you don't agree with my point, then that's fine. You're not forced to anyhow.
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snkcube wrote:
sweener2001 wrote:that's not the point. the point is calling the attempt lame. debate the point.
My point is that the game won't be helping MS that much, thus, is a lame attempt. For example, Nintendo tried the same thing at a past E3 with Pac-Man VS. The game was their "surprise" announcement, but was such a huge let-down. It was an attempt to sell more GameCubes and GBAs for their connectivity stuff. Of course, the game didn't help Nintendo sell more GameCubes.

If you don't agree with my point, then that's fine. You're not forced to anyhow.
PacMan VS wasn't even sold as a standalone. It was only available bundled in with a few Namco games.

It was a neat demo, but never anything more, except in the eyes of a few gaming blogs with delusions of credibility.


So I'm not sure what you're point is, except possibly that you're an idiot.
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Gil_Hamilton wrote:So I'm not sure what you're point is, except possibly that you're an idiot.
I don't really know why sweener took my post so seriously. He's making such a big fuss over my little comment.
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if you bother to read the thread again, i got worked up when you refused to answer my question.

you avoided a direct question and just started talking about how it's not selling so well. and then panzer steps in like an idiot and starts supporting your pussy-footing. for someone who likes to "debate," he sucks at it.

the simple fact that it probably won't have a large impact hardly makes the attempt lame. MS knows that the japanese like bullet-hell games. so they find a good one that people are looking forward to, and secure exclusive rights. what part of that is lame?

just because it probably won't change many japanese gamers' minds doesn't make it lame. futile, perhaps, but not lame.

because honestly, by your logic, i can say that mgs4 is a lame attempt to get me to buy a ps3. simply because it won't change my mind. same with drake, ratchet, and little big planet. those are all lame.
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sweener2001 wrote:the simple fact that it probably won't have a large impact hardly makes the attempt lame. MS knows that the japanese like bullet-hell games. so they find a good one that people are looking forward to, and secure exclusive rights. what part of that is lame?
I guess MS were smart on securing the game. But MS should know that the Japanese are loving all of these casual games that are being pushed out by the Wii. That is something MS should be aiming for.
sweener2001 wrote:just because it probably won't change many japanese gamers' minds doesn't make it lame. futile, perhaps, but not lame.
You got me there.
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snkcube wrote:
sweener2001 wrote:the simple fact that it probably won't have a large impact hardly makes the attempt lame. MS knows that the japanese like bullet-hell games. so they find a good one that people are looking forward to, and secure exclusive rights. what part of that is lame?
I guess MS were smart on securing the game. But MS should know that the Japanese are loving all of these casual games that are being pushed out by the Wii. That is something MS should be aiming for.
There's simply no way the 360 is going to gain any mainstream acceptance in Japan. That ship has sailed., and they've got an image cemented as a nerdy platform that's only for the hardcore.
So lock in hardcore games like shooters. Don't even pretend you can take on the Wii.
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Gil_Hamilton wrote:
snkcube wrote:
sweener2001 wrote:the simple fact that it probably won't have a large impact hardly makes the attempt lame. MS knows that the japanese like bullet-hell games. so they find a good one that people are looking forward to, and secure exclusive rights. what part of that is lame?
I guess MS were smart on securing the game. But MS should know that the Japanese are loving all of these casual games that are being pushed out by the Wii. That is something MS should be aiming for.
There's simply no way the 360 is going to gain any mainstream acceptance in Japan. That ship has sailed., and they've got an image cemented as a nerdy platform that's only for the hardcore.
So lock in hardcore games like shooters. Don't even pretend you can take on the Wii.
So I guess MS won't ever have a chance at being accepted in Japan as a mainstream system?
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snkcube wrote:
sweener2001 wrote:the simple fact that it probably won't have a large impact hardly makes the attempt lame. MS knows that the japanese like bullet-hell games. so they find a good one that people are looking forward to, and secure exclusive rights. what part of that is lame?
I guess MS were smart on securing the game. But MS should know that the Japanese are loving all of these casual games that are being pushed out by the Wii. That is something MS should be aiming for.
This is not true from what I understand.

What is selling in Japan is the system, not the games, exception Brawl and Wii Fit I think.
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snkcube wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:
snkcube wrote:
sweener2001 wrote:the simple fact that it probably won't have a large impact hardly makes the attempt lame. MS knows that the japanese like bullet-hell games. so they find a good one that people are looking forward to, and secure exclusive rights. what part of that is lame?
I guess MS were smart on securing the game. But MS should know that the Japanese are loving all of these casual games that are being pushed out by the Wii. That is something MS should be aiming for.
There's simply no way the 360 is going to gain any mainstream acceptance in Japan. That ship has sailed., and they've got an image cemented as a nerdy platform that's only for the hardcore.
So lock in hardcore games like shooters. Don't even pretend you can take on the Wii.
So I guess MS won't ever have a chance at being accepted in Japan as a mainstream system?
Maybe for the 720, if they hire a competent japanese marketing team.
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I imagine the fact it's not a Japanese system has SOME things to do with it.
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Metatron wrote:I imagine the fact it's not a Japanese system has SOME things to do with it.
Their marketing's pretty incompetent too.

Hell, the 360 J team insulted the entire nation in one of their announcements. And lost every last bit of momentum they'd generated up to that point.
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i only heard about the fact they were literally translating their "jump in" ads, which make no sense to them.
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sweener2001 wrote:i only heard about the fact they were literally translating their "jump in" ads, which make no sense to them.
And on that vein, they've also hypef that it supports "HDTV."

The problem is... the japanese don't call it HDTV. They call it HiVision.
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Gil_Hamilton wrote:Earth Defense Force. It's all you need. :P
Any relation with Super Earth Defense Force ?
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grinvader wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:Earth Defense Force. It's all you need. :P
Any relation with Super Earth Defense Force ?
Nope.
But it has lots of giant bugs to frag. And sidekicks... that actually kill stuff!


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Gil_Hamilton wrote:
sweener2001 wrote:i only heard about the fact they were literally translating their "jump in" ads, which make no sense to them.
And on that vein, they've also hypef that it supports "HDTV."

The problem is... the japanese don't call it HDTV. They call it HiVision.
Can you provide a link to something confirming that? That sounds off, but I can't find any info confirming or denying it is called HiVision over there.
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Gil_Hamilton wrote: Hell, the 360 J team insulted the entire nation in one of their announcements. And lost every last bit of momentum they'd generated up to that point.
How did that happen?
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