Pixelation desired

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:04 am

crocomire wrote:Nestopia have an option to remove this blur effect...

He is not experiencing billinear filtering.

gllt · Post by **gllt** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:14 am

franpa wrote:
crocomire wrote:Nestopia have an option to remove this blur effect...

He is not experiencing billinear filtering.

He is experiencing foreign relations.

dukeman · Post by **dukeman** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:36 am

Informative, Gil.. thanks

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Mon May 18, 2009 6:52 pm

I forget what VirtualNES uses (it's probably Direct3D), but Nestopia uses Direct3D by default, so bilinear filtering is only used when enabled. ZSNES uses DirectDraw... the blurring is enforced by default unless the "Video Memory" flag is not being used (in other words, you would have you use "System Memory" instead, which essentially the same, for the most part, as not using DDraw acceleration).

kode54 · Post by **kode54** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:22 pm

Deathlike2 wrote:I forget what VirtualNES uses (it's probably Direct3D), but Nestopia uses Direct3D by default, so bilinear filtering is only used when enabled. ZSNES uses DirectDraw... the blurring is enforced by default unless the "Video Memory" flag is not being used (in other words, you would have you use "System Memory" instead, which essentially the same, for the most part, as not using DDraw acceleration).

I have experienced drivers which bilinear filter even when the buffer is in system memory.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:38 pm

Oh great, it's not going away, even in Vista... hmmm. In any case, people should/shouldn't hold their breath for D3D support.

dukeman · Post by **dukeman** » Tue May 19, 2009 3:09 am

Deathlike2 wrote:I forget what VirtualNES uses (it's probably Direct3D), but Nestopia uses Direct3D by default, so bilinear filtering is only used when enabled. ZSNES uses DirectDraw... the blurring is enforced by default unless the "Video Memory" flag is not being used (in other words, you would have you use "System Memory" instead, which essentially the same, for the most part, as not using DDraw acceleration).

This is what I suspected since some of the original posts, that ZSNES only uses DirectDraw (hard to find what renderer most emulators use by looking at documentation). I also suspected it because in emulators like MAME you can only disable filters when D3D is your renderer, but not when it's DDraw.

I don't suppose there's a way to render simply using "GDI"?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue May 19, 2009 3:24 am

That's not happening. Moving forward makes a lot more sense than moving backward. GDI and whatnot is moving backwards.

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Tue May 19, 2009 3:39 am

and GDI can't even render office half the time

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Tue May 19, 2009 4:06 am

? remove Microsoft Intellipoint if you get blank menus and stuff in office programs (and other programs) under Windows XP.

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Tue May 19, 2009 5:05 am

i suppose i'll start by saying that i'm on vista

and continuing by clarifying the fact that GDI stutters when rendering office

which takes us to the climax of how in the world is it supposed to render zsnes?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue May 19, 2009 5:43 am

Magical hax

Seriously, it's a lotta emulation in Vista to support GDI apps.. which was already being emulated under 2K/XP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_Device_Interface

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Tue May 19, 2009 7:03 am

he linked to Wikipedia!!!!

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue May 19, 2009 9:08 am

Not all Wikipedia articles have opinions listed in them. You know, some of them are full of documented facts.

gllt · Post by **gllt** » Tue May 19, 2009 9:14 am

franpa wrote:he linked to Wikipedia!!!!

I demand a source for this.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Tue May 19, 2009 9:40 am

gllt wrote:
franpa wrote:he linked to Wikipedia!!!!
[citation needed]

Francis64 · Post by **Francis64** » Tue May 19, 2009 11:23 am

This forum thread is a stub.

Post by **Agozer** » Tue May 19, 2009 4:18 pm

Francis64 wrote:This forum thread is a stub.

You can "help" ZBoard by expanding it.

Post by **grinvader** » Tue May 19, 2009 7:17 pm

Hell no, you can help by not touching anything

dukeman · Post by **dukeman** » Wed May 20, 2009 7:11 am

Off-topic posts: $1 royalty each.

Post by **grinvader** » Wed May 20, 2009 11:19 pm

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AamirM · Post by **AamirM** » Thu May 21, 2009 6:52 pm