screen tearing???? tried everything... plz help!

Esturk · Post by **Esturk** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:47 pm

Seeing as you have an nVidia card and probably the latest drivers.. Why don't you try the Refresh Rate Overrides? I used to have a GeForce2 MX400 and the only way i could get Zsnes smooth was to force 60Hz at 640x480. I used 640x480DR in Zsnes by the way. This way I was able to play Zsnes fullscreen at 640x480, 60Hz without changing my desktop to match every time.

Nowadays I just use the TV out and play Zsnes on my TV.

Don't have to worry about refresh rates anymore. Cause it runs smooth as butter, like on the real SNES.

DOLLS (J) [!] · Post by **DOLLS (J) [!]** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:23 am

Tip: ZSNESW.exe -6 does the same thing.

Post by **Agozer** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:28 am

c61746961 wrote:Tip: ZSNESW.exe -6 does the same thing.

That's what few people have already tried to explain.

seam · Post by **seam** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:05 am

just so u know i fixed it. or found out what the problem was. in one of my previous posts i asked if it mattered that i was using a pal rom of this game, no one replied to my question, so i assumed not. but sure enough, i dled the (U) version, and it runs PERFECTLY. i should have known. thanks for everyones help though.

Post by **grinvader** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:03 am

Sure, running a PAL game at 60 Hz isn't good.

LDAWG · Post by **LDAWG** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:14 pm

seam wrote:I personally hate flatscreen screens. The framerate issue is a downer, plus I hate that "interpolated" look to the picture. I just don't see any real advantages, besides saving space. And you're certainly not saving money. Anyway, the ONLY other app/game I really have this problem in seems to be genecyst. It's a great emulator, but it also seems to have the tearing/slowdown problem. Nebula, and gba, etc. are fine though.. I'm surprised no one else has had this problem. Like I said before, even at 640x480 with NO special effects, it still does this... and I have a 1.2ghz with a fx 5600... it just doesn't make sense. I'll keep checking up on this topic until I figure something out, or just give up. Any help is appreciated, as always.

Dude, have you seen the latest generation of Flat Screens, within like the last 6 Months ?
I don't see how anyone can say that they don't look and work just as good as a CRT.
Actually, LCDs are better for your eyes then CRTs.
The quality on my Dell XPS Gaming Laptop is top notch.
Heck, I just recently played Doom3 all the way through... didn't even notice I was playing on an LCD.

Any LCD with a High Contrast Ratio, 16ms Response Time, a Native Resolution over 1280x1024,
and connected with a DVI Cable will blow any CRT away.
The only downside is that you're gunna be spending over $1,000.

I also use a Logitech Mx900 Bluetooth Wireless Mouse.
This thing is WAY accurate and FAST! Best Wireless Mouse in existence.
Bluetooth is 1,000 times better then regular RF.
Most people say "Wireless Mice suck for FPS"
It's time those people get with the times...

Wireless and LCDs are finally "good"
Go check them out people.
LINK: Dell XPS Laptop on G4tv.com
LINK: Fast Lane Review of the Logitech Mx900 Mouse

My Dell XPS Laptop Specs:
3.4GHz Pentium 4
1GB DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual-Channel RAM (1st Laptop EVER with Dual-Channel RAM!)
ATi Radeon 9700
60GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive (7200 RPM is a rarity in Laptops)
Built-in Bluetooth (no need for hubs... it's cool just pulling out a Mouse and it works)
Windows XP Pro

seam · Post by **seam** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:26 pm

heh, you really like your flatscreens. and so you know, more than likely i havent seen a new flatscreen in the last 6 months. but i hav yet to see one that i liked. im sure your right, the newer ones are probably great. but yeah, i wont have that kind of money for a while.

im sure ill get some when they are the standard, and theres already some new screen everyone is getting. heh. till then...

MaxSt · Post by **MaxSt** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:26 pm

LDAWG wrote:will blow any CRT away.

Well, maybe not Carmack's CRT.

MaxSt.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:58 pm

MaxSt wrote:
LDAWG wrote:will blow any CRT away.
Well, maybe not Carmack's CRT.

MaxSt.

Damn.....thats huge.

Post by **Agozer** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:08 pm

How big is that? 21"?

Post by **grinvader** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:36 pm

Depends on the guy's head. If TC was on the photo, I'd say 25'...

Post by **Agozer** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:12 pm

grinvader wrote:Depends on the guy's head. If TC was on the photo, I'd say 25'...

More like 30" - 32"

seam · Post by **seam** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:58 am

now that i got yoshis island working properly, i was messing with the higher resolutions, and I really dont see any difference between 800x600, and any resolution higher than that. it doesnt look any finer, or less edgy. im using super 2xsai. does the super 2xsai work so well that higher resolutions are pointless in zsnes? or am i just not seeing the difference in higher res'.

Kagerato · Post by **Kagerato** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:29 pm

If you're using fullscreen and DR modes, I have a sneaking suspicion that raising the resolution doesn't increase the size of the actual drawing area.

But in other situations...

The NTSC resolution of the SNES is only 256x224 in most cases, and a filter like 2xSai uses advanced blending and shaping on the normal output. Therefore it makes sense that you or I cannot tell the difference between expanding the small resolution onto a 800x600, 1024x768, or 1280x960 screen; it's more a matter of drawing scaled shapes than pixels. (Similar to the concept of vector graphics, which don't lose quality at larger resolutions because they are merely mathematical definitions of shapes, rather than pixel-by-pixel mappings.)

MaxSt · Post by **MaxSt** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:54 pm

seam wrote:it doesnt look any finer, or less edgy. im using super 2xsai.

2xsai is a 2x filter, so the output of that filter is 512x448 image.
To scale that 512x448 image further, to fit on 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x960 screens, video card's hardware (bilinear) stretching is used.
So obviously, the results you see are very similar.

Most of the filters, like 2xsai, are only-2x-filters.

HQ filters are different - HQ4x on 1280x960 is sharper then HQ2x on 640x480.

MaxSt.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 10:21 pm

LDAWG wrote:My Dell XPS Laptop Specs:
3.4GHz Pentium 4
1GB DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual-Channel RAM (1st Laptop EVER with Dual-Channel RAM!)
ATi Radeon 9700
60GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive (7200 RPM is a rarity in Laptops)
Built-in Bluetooth (no need for hubs... it's cool just pulling out a Mouse and it works)
Windows XP Pro

I like that taste in laptops. Hmm... oughta update my dream list to have dual-channel RAM. Notice the bolded word. I would definately recommend this for a laptop. Anyhow, only problem I see is the cpu. I'd go with the fastest AMD. It's an ass-kicker, plus it's cheaper.

seam · Post by **seam** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 11:07 pm

u know, i have seen HQ filters in other emulators, but not in zsnes. is there a way to do this? am i thinking of nebula or 1964? i cant remember...

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 11:09 pm

seam wrote:u know, i have seen HQ filters in other emulators, but not in zsnes. is there a way to do this? am i thinking of nebula or 1964? i cant remember...

You can only use them in some of zsne's Resolutions, they are there, look for them.

MaxSt · Post by **MaxSt** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 12:49 am

seam wrote:u know, i have seen HQ filters in other emulators, but not in zsnes.

Actually, zsnes was the first emulator ever to get HQ filters.

And zsnes is the only emulator with MMX-optimized, playable, HQ4X filter.

MaxSt.

Post by **grinvader** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:22 am

MaxSt wrote:And zsnes is the only emulator with MMX-optimized, playable, HQ4X filter.

MaxSt.

Because a little ASM don't make us wet our pants:

VOTE ZSNES

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:10 am

grinvader wrote:
MaxSt wrote:And zsnes is the only emulator with MMX-optimized, playable, HQ4X filter.

MaxSt.
Because a little ASM don't make us wet our pants:

VOTE ZSNES

Funny.

seam · Post by **seam** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:37 am

Joe Camacho wrote:
seam wrote:u know, i have seen HQ filters in other emulators, but not in zsnes. is there a way to do this? am i thinking of nebula or 1964? i cant remember...
You can only use them in some of zsne's Resolutions, they are there, look for them.

man, i just went through like 20 different settings. i dont see the HQ filters anywhere. anyone wanna tell me where at? also i went through the zsnes faq, and readme, and config file, and didnt see anything about HQ filters. just 2xsai filters.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 2:02 am

seam wrote:
Joe Camacho wrote:
seam wrote:u know, i have seen HQ filters in other emulators, but not in zsnes. is there a way to do this? am i thinking of nebula or 1964? i cant remember...
You can only use them in some of zsne's Resolutions, they are there, look for them.
man, i just went through like 20 different settings. i dont see the HQ filters anywhere. anyone wanna tell me where at? also i went through the zsnes faq, and readme, and config file, and didnt see anything about HQ filters. just 2xsai filters.

You are using the lastest WIP right? Just Right Now I can tell you that in 512x448 DR WIN, you are able to use HQ2X, it's right next to interpolation.

seam · Post by **seam** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:21 am

man....that is just weird. i KNOW i have 1.36. i even went to the "about" tab in the options to make sure. and i just checked every 512 resolution, and that option is NOT there.... ill take screenshots if neccesary... i'd like to figure out whats wrong.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:34 am

seam wrote:man....that is just weird. i KNOW i have 1.36. i even went to the "about" tab in the options to make sure. and i just checked every 512 resolution, and that option is NOT there.... ill take screenshots if neccesary... i'd like to figure out whats wrong.

Here, this is my picture: