TFT/LCD Monitors & zsnes (btw i'm too stupid to learn the name of the emulator) 60FPS/ 120HZ

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:25 pm

In that case if the native Res of a TFT is 1024, playing old 2D PC games & 2D Emus at 320x240 - 640x480 will look really bad when they're scaled to 1024.

How about older consoles like DC, PSX & Saturn. What will they look like when they're scaled on the TFT?

I'll have to consider all this before i buy one.

Post by **Agozer** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:09 pm

ST Dragon wrote:In that case if the native Res of a TFT is 1024, playing old 2D PC games & 2D Emus at 320x240 - 640x480 will look really bad when they're scaled to 1024.

How about older consoles like DC, PSX & Saturn. What will they look like when they're scaled on the TFT?

I'll have to consider all this before i buy one.

For the record, I run ePSXe at 1280x1024 and it looks fabulous.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:17 am

ST Dragon wrote:In that case if the native Res of a TFT is 1024, playing old 2D PC games & 2D Emus at 320x240 - 640x480 will look really bad when they're scaled to 1024.

How about older consoles like DC, PSX & Saturn. What will they look like when they're scaled on the TFT?

I'll have to consider all this before i buy one.

You get artifacts when it's scaled. Gives the image a sort of blocky-fuzzy look. You can see what I mean now with ZSNES at 640*480 DS.

How visible it is depends on the specific image and user.

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:20 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:
ST Dragon wrote:In that case if the native Res of a TFT is 1024, playing old 2D PC games & 2D Emus at 320x240 - 640x480 will look really bad when they're scaled to 1024.

How about older consoles like DC, PSX & Saturn. What will they look like when they're scaled on the TFT?

I'll have to consider all this before i buy one.
You get artifacts when it's scaled. Gives the image a sort of blocky-fuzzy look. You can see what I mean now with ZSNES at 640*480 DS.

How visible it is depends on the specific image and user.

This varies very much with the monitor and video card you are using. Firstly, you can use your monitor OR your video card to scale the resolution. There is an option in the nvidia drivers to use the LCD monitor hardware or video card hardware to scale the resolution. I notice quite a bit difference between the two.

Different monitors will also do a much better or worse job with scaling. Some LCD monitors are very good and can produce an acceptable picture at most resolutions and a nearly perfect one say one resolution down from native.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:25 am

So which TFT do you suggest to cover my needs?

EIZO
Samsung
Philips
NEC
?

Post by **Agozer** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:59 am

I have a Hyundai myself. Hasn't let me down yet.

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:21 pm

I really think Samsung has some of the best computer LCD monitors out there.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:04 am

It would actually depend on your needs. You'd want a good, durable brand, and make sure the refresh rate is < 16ms if you plan to use it for gaming.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:25 pm

I've read at other forums that, if I want to use the TFT for emulation it would probably be a good idea to stay away from 1280x1024 native REs LCDs, since they have an unusual aspect ratio (5:4 instead of 4:3).

In that case these EIZO TFTs I posted are not suitable for emulation since their native resolution is 1280x1024 thus being 5:4 instead of 4:3.

Is that true?

EIZO 17'' L550
http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/l550/index.asp#
Specs:
http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/l550/spec.asp
I found this at a shop for 399 Euros / 534$ is this price ok?

Or this:
EIZO 17'' L551
http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/l551/index.asp#
Specs:
http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/l557/spec.asp

What resolutions over 1280x1024 have 4:3 aspect ratio in TFT monitos?

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:17 pm

yes, it's true they have a 5:4 ratio, but you can use them just fine for emulation. 4:3 content displays a small quarter inch(on a 17" monitor) black bar at top and bottom full screen in correct aspect ratio. Hardly noticable. If you choose to stretch the extra quarter inch, it's hardly noticable.

You can also use a 4:3 non naitive resolution and depending on the monitor you have, can still be perfectly acceptable. Using the graphics card hardware scaling(rather than the LCD hardware) option with my Samsung monitor yeilds 1024x768 non naitive resolution that is virtually distorition free.

Honestly, I wouldn't let the ratio stop you from buying an LCD monitor. It will probably never be an issue unless you're one of those super anal people that needs every single pixel 100% perfect. If you're going to demand that, shut up, get a real SNES and hook it up. You're monitor is not your problem.