New System - ZSNES won't start!

ultramutalisk · Post by **ultramutalisk** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:58 am

I recently built a new system for myself since my old computer was getting really old. I tried downloading the latest copy of ZSNES for WIN32 and it won't run. It seems to start up and it creates zguicfgw.dat and zsnesw.cfg but it gets stuck in a black screen. I have no idea why ZSNES is incompatible with my new system, the only things that I could think of are that it doesn't like the ATI X1800XT, it doesn't like my athlon x2, or it doesn't like 64 bit windows. Can anybody help me?

Post by **Agozer** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:34 pm

Try pressing Alt-Enter. There have been a few reports that ZSNES refuses to work on 64-bit Windows XP.

ultramutalisk · Post by **ultramutalisk** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:49 pm

That's strange, I restarted and everything works just fine, everything but starfox which has a lot of graphical glitches... thank though, so ZSNES is compatible, except some times...

Post by **Agozer** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:14 pm

ultramutalisk wrote:That's strange, I restarted and everything works just fine, everything but starfox which has a lot of graphical glitches... thank though, so ZSNES is compatible, except some times...

Starfox has a lot of glitches because the SuperFX chip emulation has some bugs AFAIK.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:10 am

Starfox seems to be working as of the more recent WIPs...

Post by **Agozer** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:29 am

Deathlike2 wrote:Starfox seems to be working as of the more recent WIPs...

Yes, working a lot better, but is it really bug free?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:08 pm

Bug free? I have no clue. I don't play Starfox often enough to care. I just know one of the more recent fixes solved a huge graphical problem it had earlier.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:55 pm

The only problem I have with starfox is that it runs 60/60, yet it goes slow...

Snes9X plays it fine, though.

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:25 am

Well whenever I used to get that black screen with my old video card I'd open the config files and manually change the settings to ones that work.

And for the 3 seconds that I had 64bit Windows XP pro installed Zsnes worked just fine with startfox even without my video card drivers installed (the latest ones are incompatible with 64bit Windows XP

). If I'm not mistaken it was with Zsnes v1.36.

Aerdan · Post by **Aerdan** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:46 am

Windows XP-64 is rather stupid, anyhow. If you want to make the most of your system, you really can't consider Windows until Vista comes out, bare minimum.

Post by **Nach** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:41 pm

Aerdan wrote:Windows XP-64 is rather stupid, anyhow. If you want to make the most of your system, you really can't consider Windows until Vista comes out, bare minimum.

Considering Vista? Yeah right. I'll consider it if you give me a machine which has 10 times the minimum requirements.

ultramutalisk · Post by **ultramutalisk** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:35 pm

Well, windows xp 64 bit has been working really well for me right now. I can tell you right now that it feels faster than the same system running the 32 bit version of windows. The only problem is drivers and that's about it. If you have a mainstream graphics card, motherboard, and sound card you shouldn't have any problems. I did have problems finding drivers for my HP printer, but after enough digging i was able to find some beta drivers and they have worked great so far. If there is a downside to windows xp 64 bit (other than drivers), can anyone here tell me?

Post by **Nach** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:42 pm

I hear certain software doesn't work properly in XP 64. However the good news is that XP 64 doesn't allow replacement of core system hooks, so you don't have to worry about XCP or other malware taking over the system using those XP 32 holes.

ultramutalisk · Post by **ultramutalisk** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:02 pm

That's pretty cool, maybe i don't have to run all this anti spyware stuff in the backgroup. hehe

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:08 pm

Spyware creeps will find a way though...

Post by **Nach** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:06 pm

Deathlike2 wrote:Spyware creeps will find a way though...

To do something else, yes. It just simply isn't possible to replace some internal system hooks, they're hard coded in. Now they'd have to find a hole somewhere else and overwrite the code for a system hook.

ultramutalisk · Post by **ultramutalisk** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:19 pm

I'm finally able to reproduce the problem I'm having with ZSNES giving me a black screen some times. For some odd reason, when I play World of Warcraft and then exit the game, the game doesn't properly exit. It's no longer in the taskbar, but if i go into the task manager it's actually still running. As soon as I force quit it, I can start ZSNES again. It seems that World of Warcraft hangs on for dear life to direct3d and it doesn't let any other program use it. But it only does that after I quit it. If I run ZSNES while I haven't quit World of Warcraft (just alt-tabbing out of it), I can start it just fine.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:39 pm

Well.. this is a problem with your other app and not ZSNES.. this is not ZSNES's fault and there is nothing futher that can/will be done to resolve this issue except avoid it in the first place.

ultramutalisk · Post by **ultramutalisk** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:19 am

Yeah, I wasn't blaming it on ZSNES. I was mentioning it just in case anyone else runs into this issue, so they will know. Just being a good citizen :-/

Post by **pagefault** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:25 am

adventure_of_link wrote:The only problem I have with starfox is that it runs 60/60, yet it goes slow...

Snes9X plays it fine, though.

The game is not supposed to run at 60 fps. It is supposed to run near 15fps.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:37 am

Oh.. alright then, thanks PF.